Former source on here. Went to prison. AMA

[Theotherguy1987]

Texas mass. Glad to see you made it out brother! What units did you visit?

Thanks man, I stayed in county jail for a year and then spent the rest of my time in Pollock Louisiana.

 

[ronald]

Unbelievable. I’ve been off AAS for about a year now and made my account today on this forum because I forgot the login details to my old one lol came here to try and source some Viagra hahah

But anyway enough about me, you were the first source I used back in 2017 man, definitely the best source I ever had and I wondered where you went. Explains everything brother. I wish you nothing but the best man, I’m sure you’re on the right path to re-building. Also figured out who you were as soon as you said Whataburger haha take care man!

 

[Theotherguy1987]

Unbelievable. I’ve been off AAS for about a year now and made my account today on this forum because I forgot the login details to my old one lol came here to try and source some Viagra hahah

But anyway enough about me, you were the first source I used back in 2017 man, definitely the best source I ever had and I wondered where you went. Explains everything brother. I wish you nothing but the best man, I’m sure you’re on the right path to re-building. Also figured out who you were as soon as you said Whataburger haha take care man!

That's awesome. Thank you for the kind words

 

[tejascardinal]

Thanks man, I stayed in county jail for a year and then spent the rest of my time in Pollock Louisiana.

Glad to hear you had an easy stay. Some of those Fed camps aren't the place to be especially when you just have a drug/minor crime and the sentence is over 10 years.

if you want to chat sometime feel free to message me on wickr: tejascardinal
I've been following you since day one.

 

[TrenCatV2]

I remember the reddit days fondly too. Who was that guy that used to post all the time that was just all about NPP and test prop. He was an older guy that was just doing trt with those two compounds. I even remember what kind of dogs he had but I can't remember his user name. One time I did a contest for who had the cutest pet for like I dunno maybe it was $500 in store credit. That was one of my best post. A lot of people were happy happy to show off their cats and dogs, one guy even had a cool rat. I think I ended up picking 3 people because I couldn't decide.
One thing that also fucked me up about being in China was it was during football season and I couldn't watch the cowboys games. Also that year a high school (not the school I went to) in my hometown won the 6a state championship, first time since 1937. They're one of the best programs in the state that can't seem to ever win the big one and the coach that's been there for 20 years or so, his son was QB and got his Dad and championship. He plays for A&M now. I would have loved to have been there for that.
Prison definitely wasn't for me either. Some people thrive there. Some people are miserable. It's something that most people never consider but the prison experience can be very different from one person to the next based on personality type and what you're about. But whst can I do? Die? No thanks I like living. I put it in my mind that this was something that would end eventually. It certainly felt permanent but I acknowledged that it wasn't. And the days passed, then the months, then the years. I feel like it took me away from myself in a lot of ways and I'm trying to recover my sense of self right now but again that is not permanent. Everyone suffers grief and hardship in life and this one was self inflicted. I can be mad at the justice system but ultimately I can't change that. I should have given more consideration to the consequences and what they would actually mean for me.

You’re thinking of Newbie!

Glad to see you back bro.

 

[Theotherguy1987]

You’re thinking of Newbie!

Glad to see you back bro.

Yepppp that was him. Thanks man

 

[Crazylegzzz]

This is a cool thread. Glad to see you're out.

Now no one has brought this up, or doesn't remember it, so I'll ask lol... I remember there was a video from some YouTuber interviewing people on the streets, and I don't remember exactly what she said, but some drunk girl drops how her bf sells steroids on Reddit/SST. Everyone assumed it was you TM, because the video was in TX. The YouTuber quickly blurred her face out or removed that portion of the video after a couple of days, but I remember the sub was buzzing about that for a minute. Was that your girl??

 

[Theotherguy1987]

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This is a cool thread. Glad to see you're out.

Now no one has brought this up, or doesn't remember it, so I'll ask lol... I remember there was a video from some YouTuber interviewing people on the streets, and I don't remember exactly what she said, but some drunk girl drops how her bf sells steroids on Reddit/SST. Everyone assumed it was you TM, because the video was in TX. The YouTuber quickly blurred her face out or removed that portion of the video after a couple of days, but I remember the sub was buzzing about that for a minute. Was that your girl??

I absolutely do remember that. It was at some body building expo in Dallas and I remember everyone asking that same question at the time. You’ve got a hell of a memory. What’s funny is I literally just brought that up with someone last week. But no she wasn’t my girl. Man that was either in 2016 or early 2017 if I remember correctly.

 

[Crazylegzzz]

I absolutely do remember that. It was at some body building expo in Dallas and I remember everyone asking that same question at the time. You’ve got a hell of a memory. What’s funny is I literally just brought that up with someone last week. But no she wasn’t my girl. Man that was either in 2016 or early 2017 if I remember cocorrectly.

It's amazing the shit my brain can and can't remember lol.

 

[BPrime2]

It's amazing the shit my brain can and can't remember lol.

Man, I wonder what Newbie is up to these days. Remember that chick who got us invaded by all the incels when their sub got banned?

 

[DesertDeadlifts666]

In your opinion do us end users (the customers of sources on here) carry much risk of LE busting us for placing the occasional order?

My assumption is they want the distributors and not the guy ordering a handful of vials of test, deca, tren, etc 3x a year.

I’ve used gear for a decade now and I still get anxious about picking up my pack at the mailbox and getting tackled by a detective or some shit everytime I place an order.

 

[Theotherguy1987]

In your opinion do us end users (the customers of sources on here) carry much risk of LE busting us for placing the occasional order?

My assumption is they want the distributors and not the guy ordering a handful of vials of test, deca, tren, etc 3x a year.

I’ve used gear for a decade now and I still get anxious about picking up my pack at the mailbox and getting tackled by a detective or some shit everytime I place an order.

I can tell you the answer is 99.9% no unless you’re SOMEBODY. The dea prosecutes traffickers. The exact charge any source would plead guilty to is conspiracy to distribute anabolic steroids and then maybe additional charges depending on what’s going on. The end user is a nobody from nowhere. I was not asked a single question about who I was selling to. Gosh I have a couple stories here bear with me.
About I’d say a month or so before I got raided I shipped a package to a customer in Hawaii. He’s ordered from me a couple times before, actually a few different folks from Hawaii had ordered from me. So he sends me an email a few days later freaking out and shows me a screenshot of the tracking (I always gave every customer tracking before I shipped) and right there in usps website it said seized by law enforcement. Poor guy cleaned his house out and no telling what all else. I should have realized I was under investigation at that point lol but that’s besides the point. Well a week or two goes by and he doesn’t hear anything so I resent his package to a friend of his. So what I’m saying is the feds literally seized a package to this guy knowing that they were steroids coming from ME. And it wasn’t an issue. Just personal use quantity of course. The dea agent that worked my case even told me “hey if you were just shipping a package every once in a while to a couple friends in west texas we wouldn’t be here right now. But in the two months investigating you you shipped over 1500 packages”

Now, there was another steroid bust over in Bossier City several months before I got in trouble I’ll tell you about. It was pretty high profile because one of the guys involved was in the Bossier Parish school board. Well I’m sitting at the camp one day earlier this year and this new guy comes in and I’m not paying any attention but someone says to me hey the new guy is here for steroids too (pretty uncommon) so I go and talk to him and he’s from Bossier! So I’m like yo do you remember that bust back in 2018 and he said yeah I was on that case the fucking main dude ratted on me and I wasn’t even dealing I was just a customer.. well that doesn’t sound Diogo me obviously but later on I looked it up and he was a Shreveport police officer. So I’m like oohhh ok I see why now. I’m not sure why he was delayed so long finally making it to prison when all that went down in early 2018 but he got a fairly short sentence and he’s out and free now.

 

[naturallynotnatty]

I've always been curious about this, but what is the process for converting such large amounts of crypto you dealt with into cash? You mentioned you had some guys convert it to cash for you, do they just take a percentage of the transaction?

 

[Theotherguy1987]

I've always been curious about this, but what is the process for converting such large amounts of crypto you dealt with into cash? You mentioned you had some guys convert it to cash for you, do they just take a percentage of the transaction?

Totally different ball game today man with all the crypto regulations. I used to use localbitcoins.co m and do cash in the mail trades, for a little while a former source was doing some trades for me also but mostly I used that website until I found a dude in Dallas that would trade pretty much whatever amount I wanted… I normally would trade him 12k every 3-4 weeks or so snd yes those guys normally did charge like up to 10%.Additionally I used to use a website called bitcoin super store to buy things online I wanted. So like for instance I bought my ex a LV purse with matching wallet and I used the bitcoin super store to purchase that from the LV website. And we travelled a lot so cheapair.com accepted bitcoin for flights and hotels… I’m gift.com or something like that you could buy a large variety of gift cards for whatever. Want a new tv? Best Buy gift cards. But like I said I think basically all those websites shutdown or don’t accept crypto anymore so truthfully I’m not sure how these sources now enjoy their money like I used to

 

[MPS721]

You still doing this AMA? Been an interesting read so far.

 

[Theotherguy1987]

You still doing this AMA? Been an interesting read so far.

I’m still around what’s on your mind man?

 

[MPS721]

I’m still around what’s on your mind man?

1. How did you go about sourcing raws? Domestic or international? Was it forums? It seems like we have it made now with communities and feedback, but maybe when you started it was a bit harder to find sources?
2. Were you ever weary when fist starting out that one day LE was going to bust down your door and arrest you?
3. When you first started was it like drinking from a fire house? Learning about the actual business of brewing, and also learning about good opsec, crypto, etc.

Thanks!

 

[Theotherguy1987]

1. How did you go about sourcing raws? Domestic or international? Was it forums? It seems like we have it made now with communities and feedback, but maybe when you started it was a bit harder to find sources?
2. Were you ever weary when fist starting out that one day LE was going to bust down your door and arrest you?
3. When you first started was it like drinking from a fire house? Learning about the actual business of brewing, and also learning about good opsec, crypto, etc.

Thanks!

1) purple panda came online a couple of months prior to me, so I always used him. We used to have somewhat of a friendship I guess. He’s impossible to get ahold of now. But I always ordered internationally for my raws, eventually I was using a reshippers network that panda had put together.

2) I obviously knew what the end of that road could look like, but at the beginning I rationalized it by telling myself that surely with all the meth and opiates out there the DEA had bigger worries than some guy selling steroids. And to be fair there is some truth to that. The dea doesn’t really hunt steroid dealers. It’s normally a different federal agency that begins the investigations like the department of homeland security or the postal inspector. Towards the end I could sense that my time was coming up. I had a premonition. I just refused to acknowledge it at that time. I told myself I was being paranoid. But of course hindsight is always 20/20 ya know.

3) when I first started I was afraid I would fail. I only had 5 items test e/p Tren e/an and cialis. That’s all I could afford to get started with. My very first order I fucked up. One of the vials wasn’t crimped properly. I of course replaced it for him but I felt foolish and like an amateur for not checking. Then, the $200 payment I lost to a fake bitcoin tumbling site. The first 6 weeks or so some days I did not get any orders. Or maybe 1-3. But because I wasn’t busy at all, my communications were lightning fast and I would ship the order out that same day if I could. I always provided tracking to everyone also. I never begged anyone to leave reviews but some guys did. And as a result of that I started getting a few more orders. And then I added items to my inventory. And then more orders. And more reviews. And it just started growing. After a full year on sst I was doing around $15-$20k a week in sales pretty steady… and during that second year that grew to $25-$30k a week pretty steady with my best week being $40k. I’m a nobody from nowhere man. To see all these strangers online having good things to say about me and how I did things made me feel good. It made me feel appreciated I guess. It was special time in my life for sure. I had a lot of learning curves. I didn’t have anybody bring me into this business and show me how to do things. I was just fucking winging it bro lol. My opsec on my end was poor. I didn’t realize how poor it was at the time. I tried to take care of the customers, I deleted emails every day, tried to package things nicely. But I was way too careless for myself and ultimately it came back to get me. The crypto side of it, during those years bitcoin was still pretty wide open and unregulated. I used to sell bitcoin for cash all the time free from using any exchanges or anything. Completely off the books. You’d have a harder time doing that nowadays.

 

[DoctorbSpank]

Firstly, thank you for your service man.

May I ask why you didn't laywer up?

At your peak how many hours would you say you were working a week?

Also, how much of your own supply would you use before and did you start taking steroids again after prison and if so how soon after?

 

[MPS721]

1) purple panda came online a couple of months prior to me, so I always used him. We used to have somewhat of a friendship I guess. He’s impossible to get ahold of now. But I always ordered internationally for my raws, eventually I was using a reshippers network that panda had put together.

2) I obviously knew what the end of that road could look like, but at the beginning I rationalized it by telling myself that surely with all the meth and opiates out there the DEA had bigger worries than some guy selling steroids. And to be fair there is some truth to that. The dea doesn’t really hunt steroid dealers. It’s normally a different federal agency that begins the investigations like the department of homeland security or the postal inspector. Towards the end I could sense that my time was coming up. I had a premonition. I just refused to acknowledge it at that time. I told myself I was being paranoid. But of course hindsight is always 20/20 ya know.

3) when I first started I was afraid I would fail. I only had 5 items test e/p Tren e/an and cialis. That’s all I could afford to get started with. My very first order I fucked up. One of the vials wasn’t crimped properly. I of course replaced it for him but I felt foolish and like an amateur for not checking. Then, the $200 payment I lost to a fake bitcoin tumbling site. The first 6 weeks or so some days I did not get any orders. Or maybe 1-3. But because I wasn’t busy at all, my communications were lightning fast and I would ship the order out that same day if I could. I always provided tracking to everyone also. I never begged anyone to leave reviews but some guys did. And as a result of that I started getting a few more orders. And then I added items to my inventory. And then more orders. And more reviews. And it just started growing. After a full year on sst I was doing around $15-$20k a week in sales pretty steady… and during that second year that grew to $25-$30k a week pretty steady with my best week being $40k. I’m a nobody from nowhere man. To see all these strangers online having good things to say about me and how I did things made me feel good. It made me feel appreciated I guess. It was special time in my life for sure. I had a lot of learning curves. I didn’t have anybody bring me into this business and show me how to do things. I was just fucking winging it bro lol. My opsec on my end was poor. I didn’t realize how poor it was at the time. I tried to take care of the customers, I deleted emails every day, tried to package things nicely. But I was way too careless for myself and ultimately it came back to get me. The crypto side of it, during those years bitcoin was still pretty wide open and unregulated. I used to sell bitcoin for cash all the time free from using any exchanges or anything. Completely off the books. You’d have a harder time doing that nowadays.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, from somebody who knows nothing about distribution, it's very interesting to hear your story and perspective.

The re-shipper network, is that something you can dive deeper into? If not, totally fine.

Thanks again, and glad to see you are out and making your way back to the best you can.