Former source on here. Went to prison. AMA

[SteveO]

This right here. If you're able to be successful doing illegal things, you can absolutely be successful doing legal things. You already have what it takes and will make it happen if you want to. A lot of people don't realize it's the same qualities and traits that cause you to succeed no matter the legality of what you were doing.

THIS

 

[TestDecaMast]

This is the most uplifting thread. Almost brings a tear to my eye . For real

 

[devildolphin]

This is the most uplifting thread. Almost brings a tear to my eye . For real

Same dude. This is why I love this community. Hands down, you won’t find this type commodore in any other forum.

 

[-WG-]

Damn man, I remember you! Glad you have your freedom back.

What made you come back from CN? Did you just figure better to do your time, than never be able to come back?

 

[Theotherguy1987]

Damn man, I remember you! Glad you have your freedom back.

What made you come back from CN? Did you just figure better to do your time, than never be able to come back?

God that's a story in itself man. My plan was to just keep doing my thing over there. So I had taken $50000 in cash with me plus around $20k in Litecoin that was thankfully in a different wallet and didn't get seized. I had 5 vacuum sealer packs of 10k each and put one in each of our suitcases. So we got over there and I spend over 20k on raws and equipment and try to get to work. I wanted to have a pretty expansive inventory and a lot of everything right off the bat. It took me over a fucking month to make all this shit. I kept having set backs. Broke a $1500 pill press the first time I tried to use it and had to buy another one and then I broke the did on that one lol. I had always made capsules before. Then there was an issue of figuring out a method of stealth. And the whole time money is just going. We ended up being over there for 3 months. My wife was acting fucking crazy, she was cheating on me, pulled a knife on me because I hid the cash. It was just a mess man. I was defeated. So one day she says I love you but I'm going home. She'd all ready had her grandparents send her money to buy a ticket. So I just said ok this is it then. It's over. I actually didn't even have enough money to buy a ticket I planned to go to Hong Kong and call the marshals to come get me. But actually another source I was cool with sent me a couple grand so I could buy the ticket. So we bought tickets leaving from Hong Kong straight to DFW. I knew what time it was and I didn't want to get arrested in LA or something and have to deal with being transported around. So we land in Dallas and I mean as soon as we walk out of the tunnel there's CPB agents and arrested both of us. She would never have been arrested if I hadn't made the decision to flee and it's something that makes me sick to think about even today. I was supposed to look out for her best interest and i fucked her over. She spent 3 months in jail and then they let her out and dismissed her charges.

 

[bahamu7]

God that's a story in itself man. My plan was to just keep doing my thing over there. So I had taken $50000 in cash with me plus around $20k in Litecoin that was thankfully in a different wallet and didn't get seized. I had 5 vacuum sealer packs of 10k each and put one in each of our suitcases. So we got over there and I spend over 20k on raws and equipment and try to get to work. I wanted to have a pretty expansive inventory and a lot of everything right off the bat. It took me over a fucking month to make all this shit. I kept having set backs. Broke a $1500 pill press the first time I tried to use it and had to buy another one and then I broke the did on that one lol. I had always made capsules before. Then there was an issue of figuring out a method of stealth. And the whole time money is just going. We ended up being over there for 3 months. My wife was acting fucking crazy, she was cheating on me, pulled a knife on me because I hid the cash. It was just a mess man. I was defeated. So one day she says I love you but I'm going home. She'd all ready had her grandparents send her money to buy a ticket. So I just said ok this is it then. It's over. I actually didn't even have enough money to buy a ticket I planned to go to Hong Kong and call the marshals to come get me. But actually another source I was cool with sent me a couple grand so I could buy the ticket. So we bought tickets leaving from Hong Kong straight to DFW. I knew what time it was and I didn't want to get arrested in LA or something and have to deal with being transported around. So we land in Dallas and I mean as soon as we walk out of the tunnel there's CPB agents and arrested both of us. She would never have been arrested if I hadn't made the decision to flee and it's something that makes me sick to think about even today. I was supposed to look out for her best interest and i fucked her over. She spent 3 months in jail and then they let her out and dismissed her charges.

sorry I don't understand much, didn't you said you got caught in your home with a gun and packages in your car?

 

[Theotherguy1987]

sorry I don't understand much, didn't you said you got caught in your home with a gun and packages in your car?

That's correct. They executed a search warrant on me. They were at my house for... Probably 6 hours going through my home. But I didn't go to jail that day. I had no arrest warrant and wasn't under indictment yet. When they left the DEA agent said well we're taking all this to the lab for testing, it will probably be a month or two. We'll be in touch. I was like wtf I just knew I was fixing to go to jail. But that's not always how the feds do things. I knew guys at the camp that never got arrested at all. They'd just get court dates and stay out on pretrial release Truthfully they were really fixing to take it easy on me. They weren't going to seize any property from me other than the crypto I willingly gave up,my wife definitely wasn't going to get arrested, I doubt I would have got Even 3 years sentence, probably less. Definitely wouldn't have got any gun charges. Fleeing the country changed all that. The best way I could describe it is like I had a fire in my kitchen and used gasoline to try and put it out and burned the whole fucking house down.

 

[Deleted member 21405]

That's correct. They executed a search warrant on me. They were at my house for... Probably 6 hours going through my home. But I didn't go to jail that day. I had no arrest warrant and wasn't under indictment yet. When they left the DEA agent said well we're taking all this to the lab for testing, it will probably be a month or two. We'll be in touch. I was like wtf I just knew I was fixing to go to jail. But that's not always how the feds do things. I knew guys at the camp that never got arrested at all. They'd just get court dates and stay out on pretrial release Truthfully they were really fixing to take it easy on me. They weren't going to seize any property from me other than the crypto I willingly gave up,my wife definitely wasn't going to get arrested, I doubt I would have got Even 3 years sentence, probably less. Definitely wouldn't have got any gun charges. Fleeing the country changed all that. The best way I could describe it is like I had a fire in my kitchen and used gasoline to try and put it out and burned the whole fucking house down.

That's wild. I just skimmed your thread again didn't realize you left the country. Reminds me of catch me if you can lol

 

[JuicyCrave]

Man what a wild ride of a thread, I remember the Reddit SST days very fondly it was a very fun time in my life. I can’t place who you were though, can someone maybe dm me the name if you’ve figured it out? What a blast from the past..

Did you miss bgdubty

Speaking of blast from the past… holy shit I remember that dude. Was it ever confirmed if he was just a character/inside joke made up by one of the regulars or a real person with some kind of…condition or something? Lmao I refused to believe he was real.

All being said tho I wish you the best bro, I don’t think what happened to you is right at all but such are the laws we succumb to. I would’ve prolly tried to stay in China.. I don’t think prison is for me but I understand it’s a tough choice hell I got so sick of being in Korea for a couple weeks can’t imagine how much worse China must have been..

 

[Beastmode121]

So you’re saying if you didn’t flee the country; you would’ve been free ?

 

[Theotherguy1987]

Man what a wild ride of a thread, I remember the Reddit SST days very fondly it was a very fun time in my life. I can’t place who you were though, can someone maybe dm me the name if you’ve figured it out? What a blast from the past..



Speaking of blast from the past… holy shit I remember that dude. Was it ever confirmed if he was just a character/inside joke made up by one of the regulars or a real person with some kind of…condition or something? Lmao I refused to believe he was real.

All being said tho I wish you the best bro, I don’t think what happened to you is right at all but such are the laws we succumb to. I would’ve prolly tried to stay in China.. I don’t think prison is for me but I understand it’s a tough choice hell I got so sick of being in Korea for a couple weeks can’t imagine how much worse China must have been..

I remember the reddit days fondly too. Who was that guy that used to post all the time that was just all about NPP and test prop. He was an older guy that was just doing trt with those two compounds. I even remember what kind of dogs he had but I can't remember his user name. One time I did a contest for who had the cutest pet for like I dunno maybe it was $500 in store credit. That was one of my best post. A lot of people were happy happy to show off their cats and dogs, one guy even had a cool rat. I think I ended up picking 3 people because I couldn't decide.
One thing that also fucked me up about being in China was it was during football season and I couldn't watch the cowboys games. Also that year a high school (not the school I went to) in my hometown won the 6a state championship, first time since 1937. They're one of the best programs in the state that can't seem to ever win the big one and the coach that's been there for 20 years or so, his son was QB and got his Dad and championship. He plays for A&M now. I would have loved to have been there for that.
Prison definitely wasn't for me either. Some people thrive there. Some people are miserable. It's something that most people never consider but the prison experience can be very different from one person to the next based on personality type and what you're about. But whst can I do? Die? No thanks I like living. I put it in my mind that this was something that would end eventually. It certainly felt permanent but I acknowledged that it wasn't. And the days passed, then the months, then the years. I feel like it took me away from myself in a lot of ways and I'm trying to recover my sense of self right now but again that is not permanent. Everyone suffers grief and hardship in life and this one was self inflicted. I can be mad at the justice system but ultimately I can't change that. I should have given more consideration to the consequences and what they would actually mean for me.

 

[Theotherguy1987]

So you’re saying if you didn’t flee the country; you would’ve been free ?

Yes. Id most likely be free and clear from the justice system completely.

 

[webstar138]

Sure man. So think of a prison camp as a trustee camp. There was no fences, only 1 guard on duty and their office wasn't in either of the 2 dorms. It's small, only 150~ people there when I left. We worked around the compound (there was a medium and maximum security prison there too). The campers did everything for the compound. Lawn care, maintenance, warehouse work, recycling, cleaning. My typical day was go to work from 7-10. Lunch at 11, nap from 12-1, dinner at 3, count at 4, I'd walk in the evening for an hour and listen to the radio. Count again at 9 and then lights out which is when I went to bed.

I had a makeshift workout set at work with a pipe rack , a pipe, and cinder blocks of various sizes. Couldn't do much other than some basic compound exercises but it kept my joints in shape and prevented my muscles from completely atrophying. I read a lot too. About 300 books in the 51 months. The day to day aspect wasn't that terrible. It's the cumulative effect of it all that takes it's toll. The world just kinda passed you by. People move on with their lives.

Isn't it crazy how we can adapt to doing time?? It's looking at the gate date that gets people fucked up, but chilling and being in a routine is manageable.

I bet you can throw spades like a motherfucker now

 

[Theotherguy1987]

Isn't it crazy how we can adapt to doing time?? It's looking at the gate date that gets people fucked up, but chilling and being in a routine is manageable.

I bet you can throw spades like a motherfucker now

The biggest thing is just acceptance. You have to let go of what was before and accept that this is what it's going to be for a determined period of time.

 

[bahamu7]

Yes. Id most likely be free and clear from the justice system completely.

I can't comprehend what's going on on someone's mind in that situation, but man you chose the worst outcome. If you hired a lawyer the first thing he'd say would be don't leave the country lol. But anyway, what's done it's done and you can't turn back time.

One thing if you don't mind me saying, seems like your ex wife knew all about your business at the time, enjoyed the money benefits that came with it and when things got rough she left you. Don't feel so bad for losing her, doesn't sound like she's a keeper. With all due respect

 

[tejascardinal]

I got shut down October of 18. I started sourcing on SST when we were still in Reddit. My hint to you is whataburger was my first meal when I got out

Texas mass. Glad to see you made it out brother! What units did you visit?

 

[Pharmahgh]

I just saw this thread . You have my interest bro . would love to talk to you privately

 

[EchoMB]

Preop or postop

Careful, it's basically illegal to ask that now but seriously, that movement has EXPLODED over these past 4 years

 

[Theotherguy1987]

I can't comprehend what's going on on someone's mind in that situation, but man you chose the worst outcome. If you hired a lawyer the first thing he'd say would be don't leave the country lol. But anyway, what's done it's done and you can't turn back time.

One thing if you don't mind me saying, seems like your ex wife knew all about your business at the time, enjoyed the money benefits that came with it and when things got rough she left you. Don't feel so bad for losing her, doesn't sound like she's a keeper. With all due respect

You're absolutely right about both of those things. I certainly wish I had a few mulligans I could use lol.

 

[Theotherguy1987]

I just saw this thread . You have my interest bro . would love to talk to you privately

Sure thing man I'll shoot you an email