Winter Pharm Winstrol gave me gyno.

[Trenscending]

Currently on week 5 of this blast and I’ve developed gyno and have constantly tingly and sore nipples. Been b&c for 18 months with NO issue. Current blast is one I’m very familiar with aside from the Winny, which I’ve never run before.

Blast is;
150 Test E (SouthernCompounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Either a. My body decides to suddenly start aromatizing at 150mg Test (not likely) or b. This winstrol is fake, likely dbol (way more likely).

Also feel absolutely nothing in regards to the Tren. No sweats, sleep like a baby, no irritability, no increase in strength gains. Last time I ran Tren A at 100mg every day I experienced all of the above. This Tren is underdosed.

 

[superawesomename]

My first guess would have been prolactin but as per your last sentence I have no idea. What have you done so far to try to remedy it? Any extra ai or ralox or a DA?

 

[yelruP]

I’m pretty sure winter gets his stuff tested. I have used his tren in the past and it worked great for me even at low doses. @WinterPharm can definitely give u results I’m sure he’s a great guy

 

[Trenscending]

yelruP" pid='54069' dateline='1558496196:

I’m pretty sure winter gets his stuff tested. I have used his tren in the past and it worked great for me even at low doses. @winterpharm can definitely give u results I’m sure he’s a great guy

Oh I forgot to mention in my OP, but IF this is dbol instead of Winny I’m not saying it is an intentional attempt at being deceitful. I ordered Winny.and Accutane from him and they both look identical. Possibly something got mixed up?

But the fact remains I’ve developed gyno from this blast, and the only thing new to me is the Winny. From what I read Winstrol cannot cause gyno and if you are getting gyno from Winstrol, it’s likely not Winstrol.

 

[yelruP]

Trenscending" pid='54072' dateline='1558497062:

yelruP" pid='54069' dateline='1558496196:

I’m pretty sure winter gets his stuff tested. I have used his tren in the past and it worked great for me even at low doses. @winterpharm can definitely give u results I’m sure he’s a great guy

Oh I forgot to mention in my OP, but IF this is dbol instead of Winny I’m not saying it is an intentional attempt at being deceitful. I ordered Winny.and Accutane from him and they both look identical. Possibly something got mixed up?

But the fact remains I’ve developed gyno from this blast, and the only thing new to me is the Winny. From what I read Winstrol cannot cause gyno and if you are getting gyno from Winstrol, it’s likely not Winstrol.

Never used their orals so unsure if he has different capsules or pills, but yeah gyno from winny sounds unlikely. Also zero sides from 700mg tren is odd, are you getting noticeable tren physique changes? The tren I got from him was great, but as I said was a while ago

 

[Trenscending]

superawesomename" pid='54068' dateline='1558495981:

My first guess would have been prolactin but as per your last sentence I have no idea. What have you done so far to try to remedy it? Any extra ai or ralox or a DA?

Started 20mg Nolva ED about a week ago. Gyno hasn’t gotten worse but not better either.
yelruP" pid='54075' dateline='1558497485:

Trenscending" pid='54072' dateline='1558497062:

yelruP" pid='54069' dateline='1558496196:

I’m pretty sure winter gets his stuff tested. I have used his tren in the past and it worked great for me even at low doses. @winterpharm can definitely give u results I’m sure he’s a great guy

Oh I forgot to mention in my OP, but IF this is dbol instead of Winny I’m not saying it is an intentional attempt at being deceitful. I ordered Winny.and Accutane from him and they both look identical. Possibly something got mixed up?

But the fact remains I’ve developed gyno from this blast, and the only thing new to me is the Winny. From what I read Winstrol cannot cause gyno and if you are getting gyno from Winstrol, it’s likely not Winstrol.

Never used their orals so unsure if he has different capsules or pills, but yeah gyno from winny sounds unlikely. Also zero sides from 700mg tren is odd, are you getting noticeable tren physique changes? The tren I got from him was great, but as I said was a while ago

Yes I’m definitely leaning out despite eating everything I sight. I don’t think the trens bunk or anything, just underdosed or magic lol. The last 2 times I ran Tren at 100mg the sides were brutal. I’m mostly just worried about the Winstrol though.

 

[alphaproject]

Blast is;
150 Test E (Southern Compounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Is this really considered a blast? This seems like a cruise for most guys in here (besides the TREN). Anyways yea, 150mg a test shouldn’t give anyone gyno and Tren doesn’t and Winny shouldn’t either. The Winny could in fact be dbol but I’ve tried months of dbol and never gotten gyno, so…??? Who knows. The only thing you might want to consider is getting it tested by Jano or someone… How fast did the gyno set in anyways?

Although could you tell it was coming? Like I’ve heard you may or may not be getting it if there is a ball under the nipple that is sore. This would be BEFORE the true gyno sets in and some say Nolvadex can shrink them.
Anyone have any success on this?

 

[yelruP]

Trenscending" pid='54079' dateline='1558498685:

superawesomename" pid='54068' dateline='1558495981:

My first guess would have been prolactin but as per your last sentence I have no idea. What have you done so far to try to remedy it? Any extra ai or ralox or a DA?

Started 20mg Nolva ED about a week ago. Gyno hasn’t gotten worse but not better either.
yelruP" pid='54075' dateline='1558497485:

Trenscending" pid='54072' dateline='1558497062:

yelruP" pid='54069' dateline='1558496196:

I’m pretty sure winter gets his stuff tested. I have used his tren in the past and it worked great for me even at low doses. @winterpharm can definitely give u results I’m sure he’s a great guy

Oh I forgot to mention in my OP, but IF this is dbol instead of Winny I’m not saying it is an intentional attempt at being deceitful. I ordered Winny.and Accutane from him and they both look identical. Possibly something got mixed up?

But the fact remains I’ve developed gyno from this blast, and the only thing new to me is the Winny. From what I read Winstrol cannot cause gyno and if you are getting gyno from Winstrol, it’s likely not Winstrol.

Never used their orals so unsure if he has different capsules or pills, but yeah gyno from winny sounds unlikely. Also zero sides from 700mg tren is odd, are you getting noticeable tren physique changes? The tren I got from him was great, but as I said was a while ago

Yes I’m definitely leaning out despite eating everything I sight. I don’t think the trens bunk or anything, just underdosed or magic lol. The last 2 times I ran Tren at 100mg the sides were brutal. I’m mostly just worried about the Winstrol though.

You should get bloods done. You get store credit with SoCo anyways just make sure you check your prolactin, id think that to be the culprit

 

[MattMatt93]

alphaproject" pid='54091' dateline='1558518714:

Blast is;
150 Test E (Southern Compounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Is this really considered a blast? This seems like a cruise for most guys in here (besides the TREN). Anyways yea, 150mg a test shouldn’t give anyone gyno and Tren doesn’t and Winny shouldn’t either. The Winny could in fact be dbol but I’ve tried months of dbol and never gotten gyno, so…??? Who knows. The only thing you might want to consider is getting it tested by Jano or someone… How fast did the gyno set in anyways?

Although could you tell it was coming? Like I’ve heard you may or may not be getting it if there is a ball under the nipple that is sore. This would be BEFORE the true gyno sets in and some say Nolvadex can shrink them.
Anyone have any success on this?

A light cruise?!?!? 700mg of tren a week with 525mg of Winny or whatever mystical pill OP claims it might be per week, on top of the lower dosed test. I would like to know what your blast is if you think 1.4 Grams of gear a week is a cruise. @“yelruP” I see what you mean man. smh

 

[KidPix]

MattMatt93" pid='54109' dateline='1558532161:

alphaproject" pid='54091' dateline='1558518714:

Blast is;
150 Test E (Southern Compounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Is this really considered a blast? This seems like a cruise for most guys in here (besides the TREN). Anyways yea, 150mg a test shouldn’t give anyone gyno and Tren doesn’t and Winny shouldn’t either. The Winny could in fact be dbol but I’ve tried months of dbol and never gotten gyno, so…??? Who knows. The only thing you might want to consider is getting it tested by Jano or someone… How fast did the gyno set in anyways?

Although could you tell it was coming? Like I’ve heard you may or may not be getting it if there is a ball under the nipple that is sore. This would be BEFORE the true gyno sets in and some say Nolvadex can shrink them.
Anyone have any success on this?

A light cruise?!?!? 700mg of tren a week with 525mg of Winny or whatever mystical pill OP claims it might be per week, on top of the lower dosed test. I would like to know what your blast is if you think 1.4 Grams of gear a week is a cruise. @“yelruP” I see what you mean man. smh

I assume he misread and thought those 2 were weekly doses

 

[yelruP]

MattMatt93" pid='54109' dateline='1558532161:

alphaproject" pid='54091' dateline='1558518714:

Blast is;
150 Test E (Southern Compounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Is this really considered a blast? This seems like a cruise for most guys in here (besides the TREN). Anyways yea, 150mg a test shouldn’t give anyone gyno and Tren doesn’t and Winny shouldn’t either. The Winny could in fact be dbol but I’ve tried months of dbol and never gotten gyno, so…??? Who knows. The only thing you might want to consider is getting it tested by Jano or someone… How fast did the gyno set in anyways?

Although could you tell it was coming? Like I’ve heard you may or may not be getting it if there is a ball under the nipple that is sore. This would be BEFORE the true gyno sets in and some say Nolvadex can shrink them.
Anyone have any success on this?

A light cruise?!?!? 700mg of tren a week with 525mg of Winny or whatever mystical pill OP claims it might be per week, on top of the lower dosed test. I would like to know what your blast is if you think 1.4 Grams of gear a week is a cruise. @“yelruP” I see what you mean man. smh

I don’t think any sane person cruises with an oral or tren. Also tren can definitely cause gyno, idk why he said it can’t. Prolactin is bad

 

[Trenscending]

yelruP" pid='54134' dateline='1558541396:

MattMatt93" pid='54109' dateline='1558532161:

alphaproject" pid='54091' dateline='1558518714:

Blast is;
150 Test E (Southern Compounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Is this really considered a blast? This seems like a cruise for most guys in here (besides the TREN). Anyways yea, 150mg a test shouldn’t give anyone gyno and Tren doesn’t and Winny shouldn’t either. The Winny could in fact be dbol but I’ve tried months of dbol and never gotten gyno, so…??? Who knows. The only thing you might want to consider is getting it tested by Jano or someone… How fast did the gyno set in anyways?

Although could you tell it was coming? Like I’ve heard you may or may not be getting it if there is a ball under the nipple that is sore. This would be BEFORE the true gyno sets in and some say Nolvadex can shrink them.
Anyone have any success on this?

A light cruise?!?!? 700mg of tren a week with 525mg of Winny or whatever mystical pill OP claims it might be per week, on top of the lower dosed test. I would like to know what your blast is if you think 1.4 Grams of gear a week is a cruise. @“yelruP” I see what you mean man. smh

I don’t think any sane person cruises with an oral or tren. Also tren can definitely cause gyno, idk why he said it can’t. Prolactin is bad

Whether Tren can cause gyno isn’t actually known, but most sources seem to agree that no it can’t. Nipple and breast tissue swelling is not the same as the actual gland swelling. What I have is a hard sensitive ball under each nipple.

But I’ve also run 700 Tren A with 525 NPP and had no issue with gyno or prolactin, so I doubt 700mg of the weakest Tren I’ve even run would cause gyno or elevated prolactin on it’s own.

 

[yelruP]

Trenscending" pid='54142' dateline='1558543624:

yelruP" pid='54134' dateline='1558541396:

MattMatt93" pid='54109' dateline='1558532161:

alphaproject" pid='54091' dateline='1558518714:

Blast is;
150 Test E (Southern Compounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Is this really considered a blast? This seems like a cruise for most guys in here (besides the TREN). Anyways yea, 150mg a test shouldn’t give anyone gyno and Tren doesn’t and Winny shouldn’t either. The Winny could in fact be dbol but I’ve tried months of dbol and never gotten gyno, so…??? Who knows. The only thing you might want to consider is getting it tested by Jano or someone… How fast did the gyno set in anyways?

Although could you tell it was coming? Like I’ve heard you may or may not be getting it if there is a ball under the nipple that is sore. This would be BEFORE the true gyno sets in and some say Nolvadex can shrink them.
Anyone have any success on this?

A light cruise?!?!? 700mg of tren a week with 525mg of Winny or whatever mystical pill OP claims it might be per week, on top of the lower dosed test. I would like to know what your blast is if you think 1.4 Grams of gear a week is a cruise. @“yelruP” I see what you mean man. smh

I don’t think any sane person cruises with an oral or tren. Also tren can definitely cause gyno, idk why he said it can’t. Prolactin is bad

Whether Tren can cause gyno isn’t actually known, but most sources seem to agree that no it can’t. Nipple and breast tissue swelling is not the same as the actual gland swelling. What I have is a hard sensitive ball under each nipple.

But I’ve also run 700 Tren A with 525 NPP and had no issue with gyno or prolactin, so I doubt 700mg of the weakest Tren I’ve even run would cause gyno or elevated prolactin on it’s own.

I got gyno from high prolactin caused by tren. Got gyno and my nipples leaked while on tren and NO testosterone.

 

[CountryGains]

Fuck I really hope it’s not dbol boys
Just ordered a bit of winny from him to finish my cut

 

[Trenscending]

Woke up this morning bloated af and covered in new acne, despite being on Accutane and being almost acne free. Add in the gyno and I’m positive my E2 is through the roof. Bloods are going ti have to wait though, moving cross country tomorrow and idk when I can get them done…

 

[WinterPharm]

Trenscending" pid='54066' dateline='1558494071:

Currently on week 5 of this blast and I’ve developed gyno and have constantly tingly and sore nipples. Been b&c for 18 months with NO issue. Current blast is one I’m very familiar with aside from the Winny, which I’ve never run before.

Blast is;
150 Test E (SouthernCompounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Either a. My body decides to suddenly start aromatizing at 150mg Test (not likely) or b. This winstrol is fake, likely dbol (way more likely).

Also feel absolutely nothing in regards to the Tren. No sweats, sleep like a baby, no irritability, no increase in strength gains. Last time I ran Tren A at 100mg every day I experienced all of the above. This Tren is underdosed.

Get bloods done with Testosterone - Estrogen - Prolactin ASAP and report back. Not in a week or couple of days - order the panel right now and make an appointment. Once you get results we can discuss this further.
Trenscending" pid='54072' dateline='1558497062:

yelruP" pid='54069' dateline='1558496196:

I’m pretty sure winter gets his stuff tested. I have used his tren in the past and it worked great for me even at low doses. @winterpharm can definitely give u results I’m sure he’s a great guy

Oh I forgot to mention in my OP, but IF this is dbol instead of Winny I’m not saying it is an intentional attempt at being deceitful. I ordered Winny.and Accutane from him and they both look identical. Possibly something got mixed up?

But the fact remains I’ve developed gyno from this blast, and the only thing new to me is the Winny. From what I read Winstrol cannot cause gyno and if you are getting gyno from Winstrol, it’s likely not Winstrol.

I wanted to touch up (as I just saw this) both your orals look identical, as they should aside from the label. All my capsules currently are white/white unless you’re ordering older batches of HCTZ which would be green/white. My filler is also chocolate whey across the board for all orals.

 

[JPelle]

Trenscending" pid='54066' dateline='1558494071:

Currently on week 5 of this blast and I’ve developed gyno and have constantly tingly and sore nipples. Been b&c for 18 months with NO issue. Current blast is one I’m very familiar with aside from the Winny, which I’ve never run before.

Blast is;
150 Test E (SouthernCompounding test, never a problem with it)
100mg Tren A ED (WinterPharm)
75mg Winny ED (WinterPharm)

Either a. My body decides to suddenly start aromatizing at 150mg Test (not likely) or b. This winstrol is fake, likely dbol (way more likely).

Also feel absolutely nothing in regards to the Tren. No sweats, sleep like a baby, no irritability, no increase in strength gains. Last time I ran Tren A at 100mg every day I experienced all of the above. This Tren is underdosed.

But if it was dbol wouldn’t you experience a strength increase? Do you have any other dbol symptoms (water, high estrogen sides, etc)

And is it gyno or is it nipple swelling? I just finished up a cycle with winters tren (and test and mast and var) and it was all great, confirmed by bloods as well.

But yeah man you gotta get bloods. Get estro and prolactin checked and that will confirm if there was a mix up.

 

[Fatbricks]

How the fuck can you call out a source who has had no problem with any other customer before you verify what you are saying in any way? This is the shit that causes drama…

 

[yelruP]

Fatbricks" pid='54244' dateline='1558613880:

How the fuck can you call out a source who has had no problem with any other customer before you verify what you are saying in any way? This is the shit that causes drama…

Hopefully he pulls bloods. We can bet a vial of frog juice on the culprit!!!

 

[propionate]

Fatbricks" pid='54244' dateline='1558613880:

How the fuck can you call out a source who has had no problem with any other customer before you verify what you are saying in any way? This is the shit that causes drama…

^^ this. Posts like the op’s with no evidence do nothing but stir the pot. You could’ve just emailed Winter to see what’s good and work something out instead of this