My doctor is not happy with my AAS use

[rastaman69]

I went to my local doctor for a yearly check in. Over a year ago he put my on some bullshit TRT gel protocol which I immediately dropped and switched to a TRT clinic.

Today I went for a visit. I needed my yearly physical form signed for my TRT clinic and I had a few concerns, one being I wanted to get a mercury blood test because I've been crushing the tuna. Another is a bit of chest acne, no doubt contributed to by my lifestyle choices. I was hoping he'd know a good dermatologist in the area.

I told him what I've been doing and he was not happy. I'm cruising on 200 test cyp and 90mg deca per week. Seems mild but he was not happy and refused to sign my physical form for my TRT clinic without running a bunch of bloodwork first. He made it sound like a lot of tests. He says I should stop for a month and see if the chest acne goes away. If so I should just stop for good. I smiled and he said "do what you want to do".

Jeez, what a ride this appointment was. I didn't even tell him about the 16 week blast I did. I'm humoring him though and getting the bloodwork done. I just got to the hospital where the lab is and was able to see the tests he requested, it's all totally normal, nothing to the extent of what my clinic requests. Estradiol isn't even on the list.

 

[JDLift]

Gotta remember he's at his job and has to pick his words carefully or risk serious trouble. I'm sure if you spoke to him outside his job he wouldn't give a half a fuck what you're doing. He's just gotta keep himself safe from being deemed liable if you happened to get fucked up or flatline.

 

[203_Aesthetics]

crusiing on deca is dumb. whats the point joint lubrication? that just means if you are in pain you wont notice and when u discontinue deca it will be considerably worse

 

[AlexDavis43]

I went to my local doctor for a yearly check in. Over a year ago he put my on some bullshit TRT gel protocol which I immediately dropped and switched to a TRT clinic.

Today I went for a visit. I needed my yearly physical form signed for my TRT clinic and I had a few concerns, one being I wanted to get a mercury blood test because I've been crushing the tuna. Another is a bit of chest acne, no doubt contributed to by my lifestyle choices. I was hoping he'd know a good dermatologist in the area.

I told him what I've been doing and he was not happy. I'm cruising on 200 test cyp and 90mg deca per week. Seems mild but he was not happy and refused to sign my physical form for my TRT clinic without running a bunch of bloodwork first. He made it sound like a lot of tests. He says I should stop for a month and see if the chest acne goes away. If so I should just stop for good. I smiled and he said "do what you want to do".

Jeez, what a ride this appointment was. I didn't even tell him about the 16 week blast I did. I'm humoring him though and getting the bloodwork done. I just got to the hospital where the lab is and was able to see the tests he requested, it's all totally normal, nothing to the extent of what my clinic requests. Estradiol isn't even on the list.

Yeah, 200 mg test + 90 mg deca isn't exactly TRT and will have expected side effects. TRT is long-term and who tf would want to be dealing with sides like that? Maybe for the occasional blast, in which case you know what you're getting in to.

Some of these TRT clinics are horrible. 100% instant gratification and 0% harm reduction.

 

[rastaman69]

Yeah, 200 mg test + 90 mg deca isn't exactly TRT and will have expected side effects. TRT is long-term and who tf would want to be dealing with sides like that? Maybe for the occasional blast, in which case you know what you're getting in to.

Some of these TRT clinics are horrible. 100% instant gratification and 0% harm reduction.

You're right. Everybody who has responded here is right. I think I'm just slightly hurt I guess that I've really tried being honest and open, but immediately start getting shut down. I'm pretty freaking healthy. All my labs that have come back from today so far have been stellar too. I'm really into harm reduction and try to be as healthy as can be yet still live my life the way I want.

Yes, my current protocol is far beyond just getting back to normal testosterone levels. I'm enhanced for sure - beyond trt.

 

[bluescat510]

You're well aware you are beyond TRT, not sure why you're upset. Your doctors reaction was expected. Doctor prescribed you a protocol and you ignored it doing your own thing. No doctor is going to lose his/her career by going outside of their practice. Your self protocol is more than just "TRT". More so a mini blast (subjective, of course). What is your test levels at with 200mg? Lastly, Deca is not a cruise compound

 

[Drew dude]

crusiing on deca is dumb. whats the point joint lubrication? that just means if you are in pain you wont notice and when u discontinue deca it will be considerably worse

That's not how that works my dude. This has to be one of the dumbest comments I've seen on this board. You said it yourself. It lubricates the joints. That means it's not masking any pain, it's actually resolving an issue that would cause damage and pain if it wasn't taken, which makes cruising on it make total sense.

 

[203_Aesthetics]

That's not how that works my dude. This has to be one of the dumbest comments I've seen on this board. You said it yourself. It lubricates the joints. That means it's not masking any pain, it's actually resolving an issue that would cause damage and pain if it wasn't taken, which makes cruising on it make total sense.

Its temporary and masking damage

 

[Drew dude]

Its temporary and masking damage

Pain killers mask damage. You're use of the word masking, even as a metaphor, is awful bro. I guess putting oil in your car is just masking the problem of friction inside the engine huh? common sense bro. Come on, Jesus.

 

[JDLift]

Pain killers mask damage. You're use of the word masking, even as a metaphor, is awful bro. I guess putting oil in your car is just masking the problem of friction inside the engine huh? common sense bro. Come on, Jesus.

Deca doesn't help heal anything or it'd be pushed hard by pharmaceutical companies for that benefit. The other poster is correct, Deca's ability to help mitigate pain in some users (Not everyone experiences it for some reason) is no different than rolling on some menthol or capsaicin for temporary relief. Now, while it certainly can be drawn out if you simply never drop the drug it also has downsides such as leading people into performing movements that their body wants to warn them against but they're mildly numbed to the pain so they go through and fuck shit up even worse.

If injecting Deca actually promoted real healing we would all be running it 24/7 365/366 at high doses and pretending we're Wolverine and shit. It unfortunately doesn't work that way.

 

[Beandconquer]

No offense, dude, but... Duh.

This is the case with 95% of practioners.

My doctor uses steroids himself and still encourages me to avoid cruising above 200mg.

Your doctor may not be experienced with PEDs, but it sounds like he cares about your well-being.

And as someone else already mentioned, he can't encourage what he views as self-harming behavior.

Still better to be honest so he can consider these factores in your normal care.

 

[Gbunk]

Let’s not forget that a lot of clinics now may even prescribe anavar or deca for therapeutic use.. no deca is a fucking bandaid it’s not meant to heal. In my career, people get joint Injections NOT TO HEAL BUT SO THEY CAN PERFORM DAILY ACTICITIES WITHOUT BEING IN FUCKING PAIN. Whether you get a joint injection at the doctor so you can throw a baseball again or take deca, who the fuck cares?? Some people in this thread need to critically think. As to what a low dose of deca is that would help with joint function? I don’t know because I’m not knowledgable on that topic.

 

[CookiesAreReady]

That's why you get a shady TRT doc from the jump he prescribes it all for me. Yes it's pricey, but it's safe.

 

[__Beefcake__]

Why do you need to get bloodwork from your doctor for an online TRT clinic? Why not just use Private MD Labs for bloodwork?

 

[osorisque]

Yeah the local hormone clinics have all my coworkers on deca fulltime. I'm the only one that seems to do my own research.

I personally don't use deca, but there seems to be a lot of people who take it full time.

I see the benefits of lubricating the joints for injury prevention and pain reduction, but those on it should know it isn't actually fixing existing injuries.

For OP, as long as you're staying on top of your blood work you should be fine. I haven't used Marek Health yet, but they seem to be a good option to get real feedback on your blood work.

 

[osorisque]

Why do you need to get bloodwork from your doctor for an online TRT clinic? Why not just use Private MD Labs for bloodwork?

It sounded like it was his primary care doctor. He said it was for his yearly check up.

 

[__Beefcake__]

Oh yeah true, but at least for this: "I needed my yearly physical form signed for my TRT clinic", I would not go to my primary care doctor. PC doctors are clueless, unless they're on steroids themselves. Which is very rarely the case, unfortunately.