Your Favorite Bulk Cycle

[Master_Roshi]

Title says it all, just curious what everyone’s overall favorite bulking cycle is. I compete in PL but still focus pretty heavily on aesthetics and personally like to bulk on the following (doses range depending on goals, bloods, etc.) – for reference, I’m 197cm, 113kg, and my lifts are 295kg/190kg/150kg (D/S/B):

750mg-1.5g Test (E, P, or Sust)
350mg-750mg NPP (sometimes Deca, I prefer NPP though)
250mg-1g Tren (ideally Ace, I’ve done both but get less sides on Ace by far – test higher or equal to tren always)
350mg-525mg Mast P (rarely E)
25-100mg Anadrol
10-20mg Superdrol
5-15iu Novolin R 1-1.5hrs PWO

I’ve also had good success bulking on just high Test and Tren, 1g of each worked wonders but I usually miss having even a little NPP in my cycle for the overall feel and size it gives. Mast is something I’ve only recently added in but I like it a lot, it allows me to run higher doses of Tren/NPP without any libido issues (which only came rarely but almost never with Mast) and makes my veins and delts pop noticeably; it’s the first thing I’d drop though if I was looking to cut something from my cycle. When I’m looking to run a lighter cycle I really like:

350mg Test P
350mg Tren A
350mg NPP
25-50mg Anadrol
10-20mg Superdrol

Happy to answer any questions anyone may have as well, but definitely curious what everyone here likes for their personal bulk cycles.

 

[eyetest1]

OP you need to post pics with that cycle

 

[onehardgreek]

What’s the reasoning behind using Mast E rarely vs Mast P? I just ask because I love mast and I have a bunch of Mast E, but it seems to me whenever I run the E it never seems to be as good as when I ran P. Maybe I just need to run E wayyy higher than the time I ran P, which was at 525/week

 

[Master_Roshi]

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OP you need to post pics with that cycle

Maybe one day, I’m always hesitant to post pics on forums of this nature haha. Probably don’t have a reason to worry but I like playing it safe.
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What’s the reasoning behind using Mast E rarely vs Mast P? I just ask because I love mast and I have a bunch of Mast E, but it seems to me whenever I run the E it never seems to be as good as when I ran P. Maybe I just need to run E wayyy higher than the time I ran P, which was at 525/week

I prefer short esters in almost every instance that isn’t cruising, I’ve always reacted better to them and I use slin pins to inject anyway so it’s never been bothersome to me to do. I know personally with NPP vs Deca, I need a lot more Deca to get the same results as NPP — usually ~500mg Deca to feel like 350mg NPP — and I felt that way about Mast E the first time I tried it as well so I only run it if it’s on hand already for whatever reason or if I’m unable or not wanting to inject ED/EOD.

 

[Jbruder]

Honestly, anything with Test/NPP/Mast.

Everyone’s body reacts differently so dosages would very person to person.

Surprisingly I’m actually really enjoying my current kickstarted cycle with DBol though. Dbol really surprised me and I’m not having any bloat issues. Just controlled sodium.

 

[Dbolic]

Sust 200-250mg EOD
Prop 100mg EOD (1-6 weeks)
Deca 150mg EOD (1-4 weeks)
NPP 100mg EOD (1-4)
Deca 200mg EOD (5-16weeks)
Anadrol 100mg PrWO (5-8)
Primo 200mg eod (8-?)

12.5mg aromasin EOD

 

[case_akilleez]

Favorite so far…

750 test E
700 NPP
600 EQ
210 Tren A
25 dbol/25 tbol 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off throughout

 

[AnonNona314]

I thought tren was usually used as a cutting agent?

 

[Brochacho_Prime]

Test, Tren Hex, Anadrol.

 

[Master_Roshi]

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I thought tren was usually used as a cutting agent?

Tren is great to cut on, but it’s also one of the most popular compounds for putting on size as well (and for strength although generally I’d say NPP/Deca win that one for most people). I’m sure it’s somewhat personal, but I know most PLers and BBers use tren for size too. I react really well to it so I have a hard time imagining a bulk without tren.

 

[trenbolgona]

First time I ran EmPee Trest at 50 or 100mg/d with insulin preworkout and complementary periworkout nutrition. I haven’t had growth like that since my first couple cycles.

If I were to run one tomorrow;
750-1g Test
5-600 NPP
50mg Adrol
GH Morning, pre, bed
Humalog w meals, pre/post
LR3 post, on occasion pre

 

[Seatedmaggs]

Y’all sleeping on that MK677. Gives me a solid 10lbs of waterweight+insane fullness+improves recovery and sleep which is so important for growth

Obviously you guys with GH in your stack can neglect it

 

[Master_Roshi]

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Y’all sleeping on that MK677. Gives me a solid 10lbs of waterweight+insane fullness+improves recovery and sleep which is so important for growth

Obviously you guys with GH in your stack can neglect it

Any negative sides you’ve experienced from it? I’ve been meaning to try it for ages but just haven’t gotten around to it yet.

 

[Seatedmaggs]

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Y’all sleeping on that MK677. Gives me a solid 10lbs of waterweight+insane fullness+improves recovery and sleep which is so important for growth

Obviously you guys with GH in your stack can neglect it

Any negative sides you’ve experienced from it? I’ve been meaning to try it for ages but just haven’t gotten around to it yet.

Not really any truly negative sides but here are some that could be negative depending on your goals:

It makes your abs go into hiding because that’s where you tend to hold GH water. But if you’re bulking that shouldnt matter. Ive gotten edema pretty bad in my leg from the water retention, I think edema itself is harmless though as long as it isn’t caused by an underlying issue (I know it was the MK causing it because it went away days after I stopped taking it). That only happened once though.

The lethargy can get annoying, but if youre trying to grow, taking a nap during the day will benefit you anyways. I have to dose it at night, if I dose during the day I’m a zombie. Different for everyone though.

The voracious appetite is a blessing and a curse. Its pretty common for me to eat 3k cals at a time on it and then be miserably full for the next 3 hrs. even if Im full as fuck, if I dose at 8pm I’m hungry for another big meal by 10pm.

 

[BrawnaldPump]

10 weeks of:
750 test cyp
500 deca
200 mast enanthate

12.5mg aromasin 2x weekly

Plus preworkout for 4-5 weeks:
50mg anadrol
5iu gh
10iu novolin-r
Some carb drink like Gaspari Sizeon or HCBD & EAAs from True Nutrition

I have also had good results doing a similar cycle with no GH or insulin but MK677 and injectable superdrol instead.

I think in the future I would like to try a high EQ, medium nandrolone, low test cycle.

 

[ForeverTrenbolone]

Why do some of you prefer anadrol over dbol?

 

[Master_Roshi]

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Why do some of you prefer anadrol over dbol?

More size, strength, vascularity, full but not bloated, doesn’t give me stomach problems, better on my liver, no aromatization worries, etc. Side by side I don’t think I’d ever choose dbol over adrol.

 

[Jbruder]

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Why do some of you prefer anadrol over dbol?

More size, strength, vascularity, full but not bloated, doesn’t give me stomach problems, better on my liver, no aromatization worries, etc. Side by side I don’t think I’d ever choose dbol over adrol.

Disagree with almost this whole post. I don’t gain anywhere NEAR the size I gain on DBOL on Adrol. I’m up 3 pounds in two weeks and almost no bloat currently on Dbol (I don’t understand how people complain about bloat so bad, lower the salt and control your e2 it’s that simple but then again I don’t aromatize much at all. 12.5 asin EOD is pushing it for me on 50mg ED of DBol. Vascularity, I could give you that but I love the pumps that I get with DBol and it doesn’t compare on adrol nor do you get the euphoria on ADrol that I get on DBol which is HUGE for me because I’m Bi-Polar and it literally cancels my BPD all together which no medication I’ve ever been on has been able to do (another funny long story for another time).

Personaly I experience little to no stomach issues on DBol as long as I stay away from acidic foods and sodas (which you should be doing if you’re clean bulking anyways). Just my personal experience but DBol is fucking amazing for me for an oral.

 

[Master_Roshi]

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ForeverTrenbolone" pid='22048' dateline='1533399973:

Why do some of you prefer anadrol over dbol?

More size, strength, vascularity, full but not bloated, doesn’t give me stomach problems, better on my liver, no aromatization worries, etc. Side by side I don’t think I’d ever choose dbol over adrol.

Disagree with almost this whole post. I don’t gain anywhere NEAR the size I gain on DBOL on Adrol. I’m up 3 pounds in two weeks and almost no bloat currently on Dbol (I don’t understand how people complain about bloat so bad, lower the salt and control your e2 it’s that simple but then again I don’t aromatize much at all. 12.5 asin EOD is pushing it for me on 50mg ED of DBol. Vascularity, I could give you that but I love the pumps that I get with DBol and it doesn’t compare on adrol nor do you get the euphoria on ADrol that I get on DBol which is HUGE for me because I’m Bi-Polar and it literally cancels my BPD all together which no medication I’ve ever been on has been able to do (another funny long story for another time).

Personaly I experience little to no stomach issues on DBol as long as I stay away from acidic foods and sodas (which you should be doing if you’re clean bulking anyways). Just my personal experience but DBol is fucking amazing for me for an oral.

I wish dbol was like that for me, how you described dbol is close to how adrol feels for me, high or low estrogen (I barely aromatize either), salt or no salt. I just put on size day after day on adrol while my lifts keep going up. 25-100mg adrol + 10-20mg sdrol is unmatched in my personal experience. But I know people who feel the same as you too, my buddy loves dbol and likes adrol but would always pick dbol, even though it’s the same source we’re using.

 

[Jbruder]

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ForeverTrenbolone" pid='22048' dateline='1533399973:

Why do some of you prefer anadrol over dbol?

More size, strength, vascularity, full but not bloated, doesn’t give me stomach problems, better on my liver, no aromatization worries, etc. Side by side I don’t think I’d ever choose dbol over adrol.

Disagree with almost this whole post. I don’t gain anywhere NEAR the size I gain on DBOL on Adrol. I’m up 3 pounds in two weeks and almost no bloat currently on Dbol (I don’t understand how people complain about bloat so bad, lower the salt and control your e2 it’s that simple but then again I don’t aromatize much at all. 12.5 asin EOD is pushing it for me on 50mg ED of DBol. Vascularity, I could give you that but I love the pumps that I get with DBol and it doesn’t compare on adrol nor do you get the euphoria on ADrol that I get on DBol which is HUGE for me because I’m Bi-Polar and it literally cancels my BPD all together which no medication I’ve ever been on has been able to do (another funny long story for another time).

Personaly I experience little to no stomach issues on DBol as long as I stay away from acidic foods and sodas (which you should be doing if you’re clean bulking anyways). Just my personal experience but DBol is fucking amazing for me for an oral.

I wish dbol was like that for me, how you described dbol is close to how adrol feels for me, high or low estrogen (I barely aromatize either), salt or no salt. I just put on size day after day on adrol while my lifts keep going up. 25-100mg adrol + 10-20mg sdrol is unmatched in my personal experience. But I know people who feel the same as you too, my buddy loves dbol and likes adrol but would always pick dbol, even though it’s the same source we’re using.

True, everyone is different. I just would say dbol is my go to oral. Never ran sdrol, but I’ve heard great things about it. Actually interested in it but I’m probably not gonna run another oral cycle after this one for awhile atleast. After this little bulk I’m gonna PCT then maybe after awhile run a recomp or an NPP bulk with Mast. Or of course… I’ll just start trenning real hard.