Why is ritalin uniquely not manufactured by UGLs?

[appropionate]

I don’t want to discuss where to acquire it at all or anything related to its use, as iirc that’s forbidden to talk about on here, I’m strictly curious about the pharmacology as I’ve never seen it manufactured by any UGL when there are plenty manufacturing modafinil, ephedrine and other losely related drugs.

Having asked fellow pharmacist friends, they don’t know either.

If this is still against the rules, sorry mods!

 

[propionate]

China has strict laws about that class of drug so large amounts of raws are very hard to come by at a price point where a ugl could charge less than just pharma. Many have access it is just expensive

 

[appropionate]

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China has strict laws about that class of drug so large amounts of raws are very hard to come by at a price point where a ugl could charge less than just pharma. Many have access it is just expensive

That makes immediate sense - what else is in that class of drugs in China, do you know?

 

[thallandchill]

SouthernCompounding" pid='70189' dateline='1569874590:

appropionate" pid='70184' dateline='1569871236:

I don’t want to discuss where to acquire it at all or anything related to its use, as iirc that’s forbidden to talk about on here, I’m strictly curious about the pharmacology as I’ve never seen it manufactured by any UGL when there are plenty manufacturing modafinil, ephedrine and other losely related drugs.

Having asked fellow pharmacist friends, they don’t know either.

If this is still against the rules, sorry mods!

Just referencing rModa and Moda specifically but the raws are so astro-fucking-nomically expensive that it’s less expensive to buy India Pharma and have it imported than it is to mess with raws on those two.

As for the others - probably just not looking in the right spot. When you start to venture outside of what we’re dealing with that stuff gets real hush hush because of the additional drugs that are usually sold alongside it.

Another talking point - this would be more specific to Adderall but likely applies to other extended release drugs - just because we can get them doesn’t mean we should. There is a lot of research that goes into the time release aspect of some drugs to the point that entire drugs are scrapped. Effexor [Venlafaxine] is a good example of a SNRI that worked great but was ultimately pulled from the market in favor of Effexor XR which was the same class drug but with a time release that made it safer and more effective for patients. A lot of UGL’s could go buy Amphetamine Salts and sell it to you as Adderall but you’re going to completely lose out on the ability to get a time release version.

I’m going to assume, and God forbid this should happen, but if a source were caught selling something such as Adderall, charges would be increase substantially?

I’m not sure if the penalty for manufacturing AAS would be the same as manufacturing AAS and other substances as well? Risk outweighs the potential reward.

 

[propionate]

I don’t know the class but I do know that if you’re, say a US student studying in China, that getting your script filled for things like Ritalin is nigh impossible unless through an international hospital

 

[thallandchill]

SouthernCompounding" pid='70198' dateline='1569877149:

thallandchill" pid='70193' dateline='1569875515:

I’m going to assume, and God forbid this should happen, but if a source were caught selling something such as Adderall, charges would be increase substantially?

I’m not sure if the penalty for manufacturing AAS would be the same as manufacturing AAS and other substances as well? Risk outweighs the potential reward.

All based on the Schedule of the drug, though, DEA… if you’re reading this. I know selling steroids is legally wrong but the vast majority and I mean like 99.9% of us, just want to be strong and live a life that is productive and meaningful.

Personally, I’ll never touch “illegal narcotics” - opiods, painkillers, crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, etc. That’s for either personal use or sale. They contribute nothing to society and most of my physical aches and pains would be remedied with yoga, massage therapy, chiropractor visits, water, and additional sleep.

Well yeah, that’s the entire reason I use AAS, primarily for the strength and performance benefits. I wish the public’s perception on steroid use was different, but unfortunately you have fuckheads who just happen to use steroids do dumbshit and the media runs with it.

We are just now beginning really hear about the opioid epidemic that is plaguing the country now. Fuck, up until about a year ago I could go to the dentist and say my tooth hurt and walk out with a prescription for hydros.

I guess most people use narcotics like that to escape reality, while steroid use is used to further enhance their quality of life.

I agree with you that illegal narcotics contribute nothing to society, I’ve never used any nor do I ever plan to and PERSONALLY I wouldn’t feel comfortable buying from a source who sold addictive or recreational shit like that in addition to steroids.

 

[Ishitrainbows]

thallandchill" pid='70206' dateline='1569878877:

PERSONALLY I wouldn’t feel comfortable buying from a source who sold addictive or recreational shit like that in addition to steroids.

This is my fear and my red line too. Unfortunately selling both usually also means using both. I would be concerned as to what I’m injecting if I knew there was a risk of it being contaminated or just plain dangerously fucked up if the brewer and seller were at risk of being off their heads when making it.

 

[Dexter]

Sites selling narcotics are constantly getting shut down by LE, where’s AAS webstores have been operating for years out in the open.

We’d all be better off if China would stop producing narcotics.

 

[halfjack]

There is a drug similar to Methylphenidate, (Ritalin) called 4f-MPH. It is an analogue and is not a controlled substance in the US in most states. It is very similar to Methylyphenidate except the effects last a bit longer. It is a very functional “stim” and great for days when you need to get shit done, but not be “wired” or tweaking. Typically sold in powder forms here in the States for about $175 per 5gms. A normal dose is 10mg, so you would need a mg scale to weigh it out. More is not better with this stuff, so you would want to keep it around 10mg and use it occasionally, as there is a tolerance build up. Make sure you eat food and drink water as it is an appetite suppressant. Needless to say, I have a friend that uses this on Sundays and the house is cleaned top to bottom.

 

[Masterofron]

halfjack" pid='71339' dateline='1570771898:

There is a drug similar to Methylphenidate, (Ritalin) called 4f-MPH. It is an analogue and is not a controlled substance in the US in most states. It is very similar to Methylyphenidate except the effects last a bit longer. It is a very functional “stim” and great for days when you need to get shit done, but not be “wired” or tweaking. Typically sold in powder forms here in the States for about $175 per 5gms. A normal dose is 10mg, so you would need a mg scale to weigh it out. More is not better with this stuff, so you would want to keep it around 10mg and use it occasionally, as there is a tolerance build up. Make sure you eat food and drink water as it is an appetite suppressant. Needless to say, I have a friend that uses this on Sundays and the house is cleaned top to bottom.

Is your friend you?

 

[halfjack]

Masterofron" pid='71361' dateline='1570789629:

halfjack" pid='71339' dateline='1570771898:

There is a drug similar to Methylphenidate, (Ritalin) called 4f-MPH. It is an analogue and is not a controlled substance in the US in most states. It is very similar to Methylyphenidate except the effects last a bit longer. It is a very functional “stim” and great for days when you need to get shit done, but not be “wired” or tweaking. Typically sold in powder forms here in the States for about $175 per 5gms. A normal dose is 10mg, so you would need a mg scale to weigh it out. More is not better with this stuff, so you would want to keep it around 10mg and use it occasionally, as there is a tolerance build up. Make sure you eat food and drink water as it is an appetite suppressant. Needless to say, I have a friend that uses this on Sundays and the house is cleaned top to bottom.

Is your friend you?

I know not of what you speak.

 

[mushrooomsandpeace]

SouthernCompounding" pid='70198' dateline='1569877149:

thallandchill" pid='70193' dateline='1569875515:

I’m going to assume, and God forbid this should happen, but if a source were caught selling something such as Adderall, charges would be increase substantially?

I’m not sure if the penalty for manufacturing AAS would be the same as manufacturing AAS and other substances as well? Risk outweighs the potential reward.

All based on the Schedule of the drug, though, DEA… if you’re reading this. I know selling steroids is legally wrong but the vast majority and I mean like 99.9% of us, just want to be strong and live a life that is productive and meaningful.

Personally, I’ll never touch “illegal narcotics” - opiods, painkillers, crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, etc. That’s for either personal use or sale. They contribute nothing to society and most of my physical aches and pains would be remedied with yoga, massage therapy, chiropractor visits, water, and additional sleep.

same

 

[Checkmatelabs]

SouthernCompounding" pid='70189' dateline='1569874590:

A lot of UGL’s could go buy Amphetamine Salts and sell it to you as Adderall.

Brb, need new labels for my bath salts…

 

[Dexter]

A think a lot of people have false hopes drugs are going to transform their lives, often times you just end up feeling like sh*t.

Even guys that have experimented for years with nootropics eventually arrive at the obvious…eat healthy, exercise, get plenty of rest, eliminate distraction, establish a routine and things will come if you work at it.

Commonsense seems to be in short supply these days.