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Why don't people skip UGL's and just buy pharma?

basilio

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Speaking about drugs that can be prescribed, like test or even Anavar.

I'm in the US and while domestic pharma is pricey, international pharma isn't too bad (it just takes more planning).

Given the health risks with UGL's, why buy from them instead of pharma, which is guaranteed to be safe? Is it simply to save money? Couldn't one health complication due to the UGL's manufacturing process (and not user stupidity) wipe out any cost savings?

The environment (production site) is always
under strict contamination control (personal
protection, positive air flow), and it is mandatory
for the product that is being produced to be
sterilized. The final product, i.e., the drug that will
be directed to consumers, sold licitly in controlled
medicine pharmacies and distributors, contains
only what is described on their label qualitatively
and quantitatively, with potentially very small
margins of error (close to zero) [13-15].

In the underground market, we observe the
opposite of what happens in the pharmaceutical
industry, i.e., raw materials originated from non-
certified sources: drugs are produced at home,
without sterility, with the handling of products by
untrained personnel, exponentially increasing the
chances of quantitative and qualitative
irregularities as well as contamination by heavy
metals or microorganisms [13-15].
 

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What are the health risks of UGLs?

There’s also a huge market for counterfeit pharmaceuticals. India pharmaceutical is sometimes hit or miss. And then there’s sources that sell “pharma” but they aren’t really pharmaceutical.

Not asking for a source but what brand do you use?
 

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For me it's the aggravation of finding and dealing with a doctor. With the clinics, it's a lot easier now, but when I started, I had such a hard time I gave up and went UGL and stayed there.
 

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Four factors at play (at the least) based on my understanding...

(1) legal risk
(2) product quality and safety
(3) cost
(4) availability

Let me know if you are interested in exploring any or all of these in more detail.

Great thread. Thank you for making it.
 

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this part right here made me chuckle.
like the last 4-5 years didnt happen
Fair point and obviously true pharma is not guaranteed to be safe. Regardless, the topic is an intriguing one and deserves a thorough exploration for folks coming into the AAS use space. IMO.
 

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why dont people move out of their apartments and buy their own 3 story yachts?
For GH I can see this analogy.

For metenolone, you can't move out of the apartment without being homeless in some locations like US.
 

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For GH I can see this analogy.

For metenolone, you can't move out of the apartment without being homeless in some locations like US.
I don’t follow that analogy at all bud. You can get international pharmaceutical primo in US but it’s still expensive like pharmaceutical HGH. Yachts is yachts.
 

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I don’t follow that analogy at all bud. You can get international pharmaceutical primo in US but it’s still expensive like pharmaceutical HGH. Yachts is yachts.
i think my analogy sucks because a 3 story yacht is objectively better than an apartment. whereas buying pharma youd be paying a premium for the same shit.

i was just tryna say the thought would never cross my mind cuz of the cost
 

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I don’t follow that analogy at all bud. You can get international pharmaceutical primo in US but it’s still expensive like pharmaceutical HGH. Yachts is yachts.
No. Not legal to possess. See my four dimensions above.

No Rx for primo or mast in US AFAICT.
 

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i think my analogy sucks because a 3 story yacht is objectively better than an apartment. whereas buying pharma youd be paying a premium for the same shit.

i was just tryna say the thought would never cross my mind cuz of the cost
Ahhh… so yours should be like “Why pay for a GMC when you can drive a perfectly good Chevy”.
 

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I keep forgetting that we are on a forum called Steroid Source Talk where we all have prescriptions and only take pharmaceuticals…

Why I said international.
Just clarifying. I wish we could move past the distrust. Really. I have no bad intentions nor am I trying to trip you up. Just offering a perspective that may be pertinent to the thread.

Could I ask you to try? I will try.
 

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Just clarifying. I wish we could move past the distrust. Really. I have no bad intentions nor am I trying to trip you up. Just offering a perspective that may be pertinent to the thread.

Could I ask you to try? I will try.
I didn’t bring it there. Can you stop with the extraneous stuff? I’m not wasting time with this shit. It’s not about you.

OP mentions international pharmaceutical as well. So domestically available pharmaceutical as well as international, as opposed to UGL.
 

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Get your labs done, always refilter, consult with healthcare professionals, keep a databased record = pharmacuetical, right? Or are you referring to sourcing for materials?

Safe. Sterile. Databased police glass and polymers. Technology to go with it. Blood Plasma sourcing.

What makes it ,"UGL" is dipshit methhead scarred out retards who cant follow basic direction trying to microwave their pets for "growth"


Thats my two cents.
 

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International Pharma is alot more than UGL for the same problems. i actually had worse odds with counterfeits, low quality etc.. at least UGL I could try 3 sources for the price of 1 with same results. Too bad UGL odds have plummeted lately too, maybe time to go overseas again. Id be happy to pay more for reliable source, it just doesnt work that way.
 
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