What is causing cloudy test e?

[meafp]

I have Test E from one of the verified and recommended sources on this board. So far, I had 2 of 3 vials get cloudy after using about half the contents of the vial. I tired heating the vial using a blow dryer and a pan with water in it, but it wouldn’t clear up. All three vials were crystal clear when I first started using them.

What could I be doing that is causing the gear to get cloudy. I doubt it’s crashing, as I keep it in my room at a temp of 65-75*F. I usually heat the vial with a blow dryer prior to drawing. But I did that with all three vials, and one was fine. (Today, I drew without heating the vial. I just used the blow dryer on the syringe.)

I also tried using the cloudy gear, and it caused swelling and pip. When clear, I get neither, so I won’t be using it unless I can get it crystal clear again.

Thanks for any info.

 

[goldenboy297]

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I have Test E from one of the verified and recommended sources on this board. So far, I had 2 of 3 vials get cloudy after using about half the contents of the vial. I tired heating the vial using a blow dryer and a pan with water in it, but it wouldn’t clear up. All three vials were crystal clear when I first started using them.

What could I be doing that is causing the gear to get cloudy. I doubt it’s crashing, as I keep it in my room at a temp of 65-75*F. I usually heat the vial with a blow dryer prior to drawing. But I did that with all three vials, and one was fine. (Today, I drew without heating the vial. I just used the blow dryer on the syringe.)

I also tried using the cloudy gear, and it caused swelling and pip. When clear, I get neither, so I won’t be using it unless I can get it crystal clear again.

Thanks for any info.

Just sounds like its crystallizing a bit which of course causes pip. I’d try blow drying it longer and see if it works.

 

[Clusterfk]

This has happened to 3 vials of same compound from same source?

 

[meafp]

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This has happened to 3 vials of same compound from same source?

No, it happened to 2 of 3 vials used. One vial was fine start to finish, with the same procedure used for all vials.

I suspect that I may have caused the problem. I would inject air into the vial to create positive pressure, making drawing easier. Maybe this caused moisture in the vial due to humidity in the air.

If this is the case, I would need to place the vial in the oven to evaporate the water in the vial. Would 250°F be too hot?

 

[Clusterfk]

250 is fine but watch close. Vent out moisture w/needle sticking out as you heat. Hot plate/coffee warmer works also but takes longer…$6 at walmart. If u do it and it clouds back up be safe and toss it

 

[Swole_Guacamole]

1. what Mg per ml is the oil brewed it
2. The blow dryer/pan of hot water never worked for me. i would try putting it directly on the coil of a stove until it turns thin and flow-y

 

[BigA]

I agree with Swole, Stay away from the hot water, just heat on the stove works.

 

[meafp]

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1. what Mg per ml is the oil brewed it
2. The blow dryer/pan of hot water never worked for me. i would try putting it directly on the coil of a stove until it turns thin and flow-y

250mg/ml. And I have a gas stove, so I can’t go directly on the coil. I’m looking into the candle warmer, but I think the oven may be the best as the high temp (250°F) will evaporate all the water, and there won’t be any humidity to go back into the vial.

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SouthernCompounding" pid='45516' dateline='1552996361:

Buy a candle warmer and never have to worry about anything ever again.

Thanks for the advice. I’m going to pick one up. Can oil-based solutions be reheated multiple times without any issues? At .5ml 2x/week, that would be 19 heat cycles.

 

[ParceVeinte4]

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Swole Guacamole" pid='45496' dateline='1552965198:

1. what Mg per ml is the oil brewed it
2. The blow dryer/pan of hot water never worked for me. i would try putting it directly on the coil of a stove until it turns thin and flow-y

250mg/ml. And I have a gas stove, so I can’t go directly on the coil. I’m looking into the candle warmer, but I think the oven may be the best as the high temp (250°F) will evaporate all the water, and there won’t be any humidity to go back into the vial.

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SouthernCompounding" pid='45516' dateline='1552996361:

Buy a candle warmer and never have to worry about anything ever again.

Thanks for the advice. I’m going to pick one up. Can oil-based solutions be reheated multiple times without any issues? At .5ml 2x/week, that would be 19 heat cycles.

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I would hope that you dont have to repeat this 19 times. If it continues to go back to being cloudy i would think theres an issue. That being said, heating it 19 times wont be an issue as long as you dont have the temperature high enough to reach evaporation temp/degradation. Not sure what that temperature is exactly, but check on google for your specific carrier oil. I doubt its low enough to even go near though.

 

[hatch_snaggis]

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Thanks for the advice. I’m going to pick one up. Can oil-based solutions be reheated multiple times without any issues? At .5ml 2x/week, that would be 19 heat cycles.

I heat my oils up with a coffee cup warmer (same deal as a candle warmer) every time I inject. There’s lists floating around of the points that various compounds break down; generally, staying at or below 250F is a safe bet, but some compounds break down at lower temps, (Nandrolone and Tren IIRC).

As long as you don’t heat above the melting point, it’s not going to affect potency, afaict.

Oh, and along that line, lots of people do it, but I’m cagey about using an oven, unless it’s something really fancy, it’s gonna have a lot of temperature swing and hot and cold spots, so it may be more like 300F in some spots, 400F in others, 250(ish) in the center rack. The reason submerging in boiling water makes sense is that if you take the pot off the stove at boiling, you know you’re at 212F.

 

[hatch_snaggis]

Appropriate to this thread, I’m going on a trip and just now I was packing my TRT-prescribed test cyp from a local compounding pharmacy to bring with me. I’ve been running SoCo’s and so had put the pharma vial aside for the last 6 weeks.

Took it out of the box and that shit was crashed, bros! That pharmacist must be brewing dirty gear from some shady raws, amirite?

Put it on the warmer for 20 minutes, shook it and it was fine.

 

[oceanus99]

Could I just hold a lighter and run it along the sides of the vial? I just did this on one of the vials of tren that had a bunch of crystallization on the sides of the vial. Seemed to have worked but just want to make sure this is a safe method without ruining the gear.