Total test at 1600 on 500mg pharma test

[Septicanon]

So I’ve been doing 500mg/week test E for 6 weeks and had bloods drawn 4 days (96h) after last 250mg pin. It’s 1636 ng/dL. WHAT? It’s pharmaceutical test from a brick and mortar pharmacy. I go pick it up in person in a first world country. Last time I had bloods drawn 36h after 250mg from an UGL after on week 5 of 400mg/week (36 after 200mg pin) it was over 4k. I would say overdosed, but its a source from here with loads of bloods from the same batch and everything looked okay.

Possibilities I have thought of:

1. I am on LGD, and my SHBG is at 6… maybe I’m just metabolizing it extremely rapidly? Still, my free test is at 5.9, which doesn’t seem high at all, relatively speaking.
2. The only thing I can think of is my test is suspended in castor oil, while the UGL I used was cottonseed oil… maybe it got absorbed faster?
3. my e2 was at 120, sos I’m losing some test to aromatization?
4. This was a thigh shot instead of a glute shot when I did UGL… maybe some of it went subQ in the glute shot and that gave me greater levels?

I mean one the tests were 48h apart, but can I really go from 4k to 1.6k in 2 days? I’m really lost guys. Considering getting a blood test done at +36 because if my test level is anything less than 3k I’m going UGL again.

 

[eyetest1]

well? can you post the bloods?

 

[Septicanon]

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well? can you post the bloods?

They’re in paper, so I could unstaple them, scan them, upload them, and post them… but all the figures relevant to this are in the OP, unless I’ve missed something.

 

[system]

Lab error is always something to consider.

 

[Arms_Length]

If I’m understanding your comparing your peak verse your trough since you drew blood four days after which is probably the same day you were due for your next 250mg injection. I know there is a lot of swing between the peak and trough but not sure how much. Should be significant I think.

 

[Septicanon]

kingofcarbz" pid='9958' dateline='1524762189:

Lab error is always something to consider.

Highly unlikely. I asked them to run the tests again and they did as they still had the blood. It’s also one of the leading worldwide blood test firms.

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If I’m understanding your comparing your peak verse your trough since you drew blood four days after which is probably the same day you were due for your next 250mg injection. I know there is a lot of swing between the peak and trough but not sure how much. Should be significant I think.

Undoubtedly, but I doubt even propionate would peak/trough that much.

 

[flashpass123]

Why would you wait 96 hours to get blood drawn? I’m sure thats a considerable factor. Plus UGL test is known for being “well dosed”

 

[Septicanon]

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Why would you wait 96 hours to get blood drawn? I’m sure thats a considerable factor. Plus UGL test is known for being “well dosed”

I wanted to see how far away I could go between dosages as to my understanding castor oil significantly slows down the absorption rate of testoterone.

 

[Sparker]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you the dude who said your doctor prescribed 250mg/wk puts you at about nine hundred something? So 500mg/wk with blood drawn 96 hrs doesn’t seem off to me. What were you expecting?

 

[Septicanon]

Sparker" pid='9993' dateline='1524767066:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you the dude who said your doctor prescribed 250mg/wk puts you at about nine hundred something? So 500mg/wk with blood drawn 96 hrs doesn’t seem off to me. What were you expecting?

Yeah that’s me. Well I was expecting a little more considering 2x the dose.

 

[Grrr]

I tried looking it up, but I couldn’t find what effect castor oil had on test e. But I do know that Nebido claims that adding test u to castor oil takes the half life from 2 weeks to over 50 days. Maybe you aren’t at saturation levels yet because the half life is being stretched out. I wonder if you take another test in a few weeks if your bloods will be closer to where you expect them to be.

 

[thad54]

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Sparker" pid='9993' dateline='1524767066:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you the dude who said your doctor prescribed 250mg/wk puts you at about nine hundred something? So 500mg/wk with blood drawn 96 hrs doesn’t seem off to me. What were you expecting?

Yeah that’s me. Well I was expecting a little more considering 2x the dose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns

The higher the dose the lower the multiplier is gonna be. If 250 puts you at 900 (3.6x) then 500 putting you at 1600 (3.2x) is about expected. Notice in bloodworks posted that people injecting a cruise dose get wild multipliers like 8-9x and over 6x for a blast dose is mostly unheard of (unless it’s way overdosed).

I have a similarly bad response. 140/wk (40mg pharma cyp EoD) puts my 48hr trough at 515 (3.68x) and 630/wk homebrewed Test E (180mg EoD) put my 48hr trough at 2010ng/dL (3.19x), so it’s not unheard of. It sucks seeing people get over 3k from 500 when I would probably have to run a gram for that.

 

[Arms_Length]

Septicanon" pid='9994' dateline='1524767289:

Sparker" pid='9993' dateline='1524767066:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you the dude who said your doctor prescribed 250mg/wk puts you at about nine hundred something? So 500mg/wk with blood drawn 96 hrs doesn’t seem off to me. What were you expecting?

Yeah that’s me. Well I was expecting a little more considering 2x the dose.

You get diminishing results as the dose increases. If 250mg put you around 900, I wouldn’t expect more than ~1600ng/dL on twice as much. Not uncommon to see a high multiplier (blood serum/dose in mg) on cruise doses. Like reaching 7-9x while at blast levels guys may sit around 4-5x.

 

[eyetest1]

Septicanon" pid='9949' dateline='1524761448:

eyetest1" pid='9948' dateline='1524761123:

well? can you post the bloods?

They’re in paper, so I could unstaple them, scan them, upload them, and post them… but all the figures relevant to this are in the OP, unless I’ve missed something.

or you know take a picture and upload them unless you live in a rock with no smartphone

 

[Deadlift]

My test on 500mg/wk pharma Test C is only 1900, so I just think that UGLs have to be overdosing in some cases? The pharmacy brand definitely isn’t, so I can’t think of any other good explanation considering it’s happened more than once over the course of 6-7 years. I do have naturally low test, but a few UGL sources I’ve used have put me higher regardless.

 

[Hrodland666]

1600 on 500mg with SHBG of 6 actually sounds exactly right. With SHBG that low, you metabolize the testosterone extremely quickly and literally piss it out. You need to up your injection frequency to eod or daily, and you will see improvements in your total.

 

[Septicanon]

Hrodland666" pid='10591' dateline='1525049909:

1600 on 500mg with SHBG of 6 actually sounds exactly right. With SHBG that low, you metabolize the testosterone extremely quickly and literally piss it out. You need to up your injection frequency to eod or daily, and you will see improvements in your total.

Does SHBG affect the half life of test? How??

 

[Hrodland666]

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Hrodland666" pid='10591' dateline='1525049909:

1600 on 500mg with SHBG of 6 actually sounds exactly right. With SHBG that low, you metabolize the testosterone extremely quickly and literally piss it out. You need to up your injection frequency to eod or daily, and you will see improvements in your total.

Does SHBG affect the half life of test? How??

Absolutely it does. It makes a tremendous difference.

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/91/11/4669/2656842

Start watching from about 4:15

 

[ChemLyft]

There are no bloods to call out bunk shit bro.