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SouthernCompounding" pid='42617' dateline='1550949657:
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Basically this, if you get it back into solution completely and then it crashes again at room temp, yeah toss it and see if SoCo will compensate for it. But atm you are the only person to report this problem with SoCo Tren. Lots of crashed gear this time of year depending on where its coming from/going and people have been getting it back into solution for years.

So try it, if it works great, you learned how to fix a minor issue. If it doesnt, then sure there is something else going on that can be addressed then.
Could be too little Benzoyl Benzoate but then you run into the issue of people complaining about PIP when you add enough to keep it stable at room temperature. The presence of crystallization is not a direct, indirect, or otherwise correlating determination method in the ability of the compound to produce the desired results. Does it indicate that I possibly should add more BB, yes. But then we wind up with a thread full of 'I get ouchies when I inject obscene amount of oil into my underdeveloped muscle group.

I could add EO to it and we could all gripe about PIP while a quarter of the people here had swelling and inflammation. Please don’t take this post as me being an ass but just trying to make the point that you literally cannot make everything for everyone.
Ha Ha so true brother.


skaloola" pid='42502' dateline='1550873638:
Emailed SoCo about this and he told me to heat them up and it’s normal.

Put in my first order w/ SoCo some weeks ago, received their SDrol which was crashed and Tren E which was also crashed. I was also missing one item from my order, but he promised to replace it.

The SDrol had some floaties, nothing crazy. The Tren E was laying on it’s side and on the bottom looks like a crystal rock formation. I emailed SoCo about it and they told me it’s normal in the winter months (well… I store the oils indoors, and it’s warm here, I guess he meant in transit).

I barely had to warm up the SDrol/shake it up and it went back into solution. From Googling, it looks like tren breaks down at a fairly low temperature (read conflicting reports) so I don’t want to go too crazy. I also don’t want to heat it so much that the BA evaporates, but I did try a hot water bath and hot air from an electronics rework station.

As I told SoCo in email, even if I were able to heat this back into solution w/ enough heat (don’t want to degrade the tren / bake off the BA) I’m assuming it’d just fall back out and there’s no way I’m risking an abscess/infection.

I asked on another board and the consensus was if you get crashed gear and it doesn’t go back into solution from sitting in a hot water bath and shaking it up then the source should replace it or refund you. “Most gear will fall out and crash if you put it in freezer, but should be stable at room temperature”

Since SoCo didn’t offer me a refund or resolution besides telling me to heat it up (which didn’t work), I’m posting here and letting people know about it. If I wanted to go through the hassle of all that, I’d buy the raw materials myself.

Here’s a picture of what I’m talking about. Its hard to tell in the picture, but the crystals are across the whole side of the bottle (it was laying on its side).


Not trying to start any shit here, just leaving my experience. Thanks.
Brother we have a section called announcements, That has a sticky that says (RULES DONT GET BANNED) you might want to read them. This is a bullshit post if you had discussed this in private by email with soco I guarantee he would have worked something out or at least explained to you exactly what he said in his last post. It looks like you were trying to start a smear campaign, not cool after 1 email. probably should have thought it through before you trened out. hopefully the mods remove it because it really dont belong.
 
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I ordered a couple vials of NPP 200 from SoCo, this shit was crashed hard AF, as expected. It was a full vial of solid crystal lmao. Bought a candle warmer off Amazon for $6.99 , put them on there for about 5-10 min at a time shaking each time i checked them, had them completely uncrashed within 30 min. Never crashed again. This is common and easily fixed bro. SoCo is good to go.
Same boat. My NPP200 looked like a vial of glass shards when I got it. Boiled some water, put in a ziplock, and soaked for 10 min…BOOM the NPP fell back into solution and has stayed stable ever since. SoCo is absolutely good shit. Its winter…gear crashes…settle that shit with him In private.
 
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I ordered a couple vials of NPP 200 from SoCo, this shit was crashed hard AF, as expected. It was a full vial of solid crystal lmao. Bought a candle warmer off Amazon for $6.99 , put them on there for about 5-10 min at a time shaking each time i checked them, had them completely uncrashed within 30 min. Never crashed again. This is common and easily fixed bro. SoCo is good to go.
Same boat. My NPP200 looked like a vial of glass shards when I got it. Boiled some water, put in a ziplock, and soaked for 10 min…BOOM the NPP fell back into solution and has stayed stable ever since. SoCo is absolutely good shit. Its winter…gear crashes…settle that shit with him In private.
by any chance have you tried that npp yet? im looking to purchase some but i want to make sure the pip is bearable… havent really gotten a clear answer yet from anyone who has used it
 
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I ordered a couple vials of NPP 200 from SoCo, this shit was crashed hard AF, as expected. It was a full vial of solid crystal lmao. Bought a candle warmer off Amazon for $6.99 , put them on there for about 5-10 min at a time shaking each time i checked them, had them completely uncrashed within 30 min. Never crashed again. This is common and easily fixed bro. SoCo is good to go.
Same boat. My NPP200 looked like a vial of glass shards when I got it. Boiled some water, put in a ziplock, and soaked for 10 min…BOOM the NPP fell back into solution and has stayed stable ever since. SoCo is absolutely good shit. Its winter…gear crashes…settle that shit with him In private.
by any chance have you tried that npp yet? im looking to purchase some but i want to make sure the pip is bearable… havent really gotten a clear answer yet from anyone who has used it
Yes I’ve been using it, I only do 100mg per injection though so .5ml. It definitely has a bite to it but it’s not horrible at all. I only inject this stuff in my glutes and it’s barely noticeable. It would probably be more of a bother in delts or quads.
 
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I ordered a couple vials of NPP 200 from SoCo, this shit was crashed hard AF, as expected. It was a full vial of solid crystal lmao. Bought a candle warmer off Amazon for $6.99 , put them on there for about 5-10 min at a time shaking each time i checked them, had them completely uncrashed within 30 min. Never crashed again. This is common and easily fixed bro. SoCo is good to go.
Same boat. My NPP200 looked like a vial of glass shards when I got it. Boiled some water, put in a ziplock, and soaked for 10 min…BOOM the NPP fell back into solution and has stayed stable ever since. SoCo is absolutely good shit. Its winter…gear crashes…settle that shit with him In private.
by any chance have you tried that npp yet? im looking to purchase some but i want to make sure the pip is bearable… havent really gotten a clear answer yet from anyone who has used it
Yes I’ve been using it, I only do 100mg per injection though so .5ml. It definitely has a bite to it but it’s not horrible at all. I only inject this stuff in my glutes and it’s barely noticeable. It would probably be more of a bother in delts or quads.
sounds good dude… thanks for the quick response!
 
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Fatbricks" pid='42797' dateline='1551063938:
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I ordered a couple vials of NPP 200 from SoCo, this shit was crashed hard AF, as expected. It was a full vial of solid crystal lmao. Bought a candle warmer off Amazon for $6.99 , put them on there for about 5-10 min at a time shaking each time i checked them, had them completely uncrashed within 30 min. Never crashed again. This is common and easily fixed bro. SoCo is good to go.
Same boat. My NPP200 looked like a vial of glass shards when I got it. Boiled some water, put in a ziplock, and soaked for 10 min…BOOM the NPP fell back into solution and has stayed stable ever since. SoCo is absolutely good shit. Its winter…gear crashes…settle that shit with him In private.
by any chance have you tried that npp yet? im looking to purchase some but i want to make sure the pip is bearable… havent really gotten a clear answer yet from anyone who has used it
Like heathgt said it’s got SOME bite but its tolerable. I’ve used 1ml in the delt and it felt sore for a few days but not handicapped. It’s good good shit though!
 
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I ordered a couple vials of NPP 200 from SoCo, this shit was crashed hard AF, as expected. It was a full vial of solid crystal lmao. Bought a candle warmer off Amazon for $6.99 , put them on there for about 5-10 min at a time shaking each time i checked them, had them completely uncrashed within 30 min. Never crashed again. This is common and easily fixed bro. SoCo is good to go.
Same boat. My NPP200 looked like a vial of glass shards when I got it. Boiled some water, put in a ziplock, and soaked for 10 min…BOOM the NPP fell back into solution and has stayed stable ever since. SoCo is absolutely good shit. Its winter…gear crashes…settle that shit with him In private.
by any chance have you tried that npp yet? im looking to purchase some but i want to make sure the pip is bearable… havent really gotten a clear answer yet from anyone who has used it
Like heathgt said it’s got SOME bite but its tolerable. I’ve used 1ml in the delt and it felt sore for a few days but not handicapped. It’s good good shit though!
thanks for the response as well… im about halfway through my current npp blast and that price is unbeatable… will be ordering in a week or so, thanks for the input, much appreciated
 
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SouthernCompounding:
Please don’t take this post as me being an ass but just trying to make the point that you literally cannot make everything for everyone.
Nahhhh, you could definitely make something that would work for every single user! You’d probably need 20 different versions of Test E, but then people will order the wrong one for them anyway - something like 3CC of 200mg/mL Tren Ace M840 works fine for my buddy, so it should work fine for me because we both run the same cycle and lift the same weights and have the same wicked chin-strap beard - and you’ll have to do this all over again. 😃

I source ONLY on SST because we have - by far - the lowest population of these types of guys. I’m pretty proud to call this place home. 🙂
 
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Basically this, if you get it back into solution completely and then it crashes again at room temp, yeah toss it and see if SoCo will compensate for it. But atm you are the only person to report this problem with SoCo Tren. Lots of crashed gear this time of year depending on where its coming from/going and people have been getting it back into solution for years.

So try it, if it works great, you learned how to fix a minor issue. If it doesnt, then sure there is something else going on that can be addressed then.
Could be too little Benzoyl Benzoate but then you run into the issue of people complaining about PIP when you add enough to keep it stable at room temperature. The presence of crystallization is not a direct, indirect, or otherwise correlating determination method in the ability of the compound to produce the desired results. Does it indicate that I possibly should add more BB, yes. But then we wind up with a thread full of 'I get ouchies when I inject obscene amount of oil into my underdeveloped muscle group.

I could add EO to it and we could all gripe about PIP while a quarter of the people here had swelling and inflammation. Please don’t take this post as me being an ass but just trying to make the point that you literally cannot make everything for everyone.
Ha Ha so true brother.


skaloola" pid='42502' dateline='1550873638:
Emailed SoCo about this and he told me to heat them up and it’s normal.

Put in my first order w/ SoCo some weeks ago, received their SDrol which was crashed and Tren E which was also crashed. I was also missing one item from my order, but he promised to replace it.

The SDrol had some floaties, nothing crazy. The Tren E was laying on it’s side and on the bottom looks like a crystal rock formation. I emailed SoCo about it and they told me it’s normal in the winter months (well… I store the oils indoors, and it’s warm here, I guess he meant in transit).

I barely had to warm up the SDrol/shake it up and it went back into solution. From Googling, it looks like tren breaks down at a fairly low temperature (read conflicting reports) so I don’t want to go too crazy. I also don’t want to heat it so much that the BA evaporates, but I did try a hot water bath and hot air from an electronics rework station.

As I told SoCo in email, even if I were able to heat this back into solution w/ enough heat (don’t want to degrade the tren / bake off the BA) I’m assuming it’d just fall back out and there’s no way I’m risking an abscess/infection.

I asked on another board and the consensus was if you get crashed gear and it doesn’t go back into solution from sitting in a hot water bath and shaking it up then the source should replace it or refund you. “Most gear will fall out and crash if you put it in freezer, but should be stable at room temperature”

Since SoCo didn’t offer me a refund or resolution besides telling me to heat it up (which didn’t work), I’m posting here and letting people know about it. If I wanted to go through the hassle of all that, I’d buy the raw materials myself.

Here’s a picture of what I’m talking about. Its hard to tell in the picture, but the crystals are across the whole side of the bottle (it was laying on its side).


Not trying to start any shit here, just leaving my experience. Thanks.
Brother we have a section called announcements, That has a sticky that says (RULES DONT GET BANNED) you might want to read them. This is a bullshit post if you had discussed this in private by email with soco I guarantee he would have worked something out or at least explained to you exactly what he said in his last post. It looks like you were trying to start a smear campaign, not cool after 1 email. probably should have thought it through before you trened out. hopefully the mods remove it because it really dont belong.


HAHAHHAHA I can’t believe someone actually read the rules.

I don’t even know whether or not to leave this up. the dude knows what hes supposed to do

also, fuck hot water baths, I either put my shit directly on the coil of the stove or in a candle warmer, warm water doesnt seem to do shit for me
 
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Basically this, if you get it back into solution completely and then it crashes again at room temp, yeah toss it and see if SoCo will compensate for it. But atm you are the only person to report this problem with SoCo Tren. Lots of crashed gear this time of year depending on where its coming from/going and people have been getting it back into solution for years.

So try it, if it works great, you learned how to fix a minor issue. If it doesnt, then sure there is something else going on that can be addressed then.
Could be too little Benzoyl Benzoate but then you run into the issue of people complaining about PIP when you add enough to keep it stable at room temperature. The presence of crystallization is not a direct, indirect, or otherwise correlating determination method in the ability of the compound to produce the desired results. Does it indicate that I possibly should add more BB, yes. But then we wind up with a thread full of 'I get ouchies when I inject obscene amount of oil into my underdeveloped muscle group.

I could add EO to it and we could all gripe about PIP while a quarter of the people here had swelling and inflammation. Please don’t take this post as me being an ass but just trying to make the point that you literally cannot make everything for everyone.
Ha Ha so true brother.


skaloola" pid='42502' dateline='1550873638:
Emailed SoCo about this and he told me to heat them up and it’s normal.

Put in my first order w/ SoCo some weeks ago, received their SDrol which was crashed and Tren E which was also crashed. I was also missing one item from my order, but he promised to replace it.

The SDrol had some floaties, nothing crazy. The Tren E was laying on it’s side and on the bottom looks like a crystal rock formation. I emailed SoCo about it and they told me it’s normal in the winter months (well… I store the oils indoors, and it’s warm here, I guess he meant in transit).

I barely had to warm up the SDrol/shake it up and it went back into solution. From Googling, it looks like tren breaks down at a fairly low temperature (read conflicting reports) so I don’t want to go too crazy. I also don’t want to heat it so much that the BA evaporates, but I did try a hot water bath and hot air from an electronics rework station.

As I told SoCo in email, even if I were able to heat this back into solution w/ enough heat (don’t want to degrade the tren / bake off the BA) I’m assuming it’d just fall back out and there’s no way I’m risking an abscess/infection.

I asked on another board and the consensus was if you get crashed gear and it doesn’t go back into solution from sitting in a hot water bath and shaking it up then the source should replace it or refund you. “Most gear will fall out and crash if you put it in freezer, but should be stable at room temperature”

Since SoCo didn’t offer me a refund or resolution besides telling me to heat it up (which didn’t work), I’m posting here and letting people know about it. If I wanted to go through the hassle of all that, I’d buy the raw materials myself.

Here’s a picture of what I’m talking about. Its hard to tell in the picture, but the crystals are across the whole side of the bottle (it was laying on its side).


Not trying to start any shit here, just leaving my experience. Thanks.
Brother we have a section called announcements, That has a sticky that says (RULES DONT GET BANNED) you might want to read them. This is a bullshit post if you had discussed this in private by email with soco I guarantee he would have worked something out or at least explained to you exactly what he said in his last post. It looks like you were trying to start a smear campaign, not cool after 1 email. probably should have thought it through before you trened out. hopefully the mods remove it because it really dont belong.


HAHAHHAHA I can’t believe someone actually read the rules.

I don’t even know whether or not to leave this up. the dude knows what hes supposed to do

also, fuck hot water baths, I either put my shit directly on the coil of the stove or in a candle warmer, warm water doesnt seem to do shit for me


I generally insert the vial rectally with the stopper pointing out. Once the vial has reached a symbiotic temperature with my core, I squat over a mirror and draw from the vial then inject as normal.


Lmfao this may be the greatest thing I’ve ever read. And fuck you for giving me that mental image.
 
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Hey, at least you know its g2g and concentrated from all that “shard”. Its so easy to make it dissolve back into the solution anyway. I’ve purposely crashed very small amounts if I was suspicious. Test E five mins back in room te.perature andit’s fine. .
 
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That gear isnt that crashed. It’s like a slushy kind of. You might need to heat it up before every draw which sucks but part of the game. The only time crashed gear has given me real problems is Sasquatch test p 200 which half the vial was literally one big rock and when I finally heated it down enough to draw and pin, it gave me an abscess
 
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That gear isnt that crashed. It’s like a slushy kind of. You might need to heat it up before every draw which sucks but part of the game. The only time crashed gear has given me real problems is Sasquatch test p 200 which half the vial was literally one big rock and when I finally heated it down enough to draw and pin, it gave me an abscess
Dude that sucks. Did you continue to use it or call it a loss?
 
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That gear isnt that crashed. It’s like a slushy kind of. You might need to heat it up before every draw which sucks but part of the game. The only time crashed gear has given me real problems is Sasquatch test p 200 which half the vial was literally one big rock and when I finally heated it down enough to draw and pin, it gave me an abscess
Dude that sucks. Did you continue to use it or call it a loss?
I threw it in the trash and swore off ever putting a $5 vial of test in my body again
 
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