Question about upcoming prep

[JAKRPH]

So I’m going to be going through my first cut/prep and I just had a question. Since this is my first prep, I’m not too knowledgeable on the topic. I told my coach that tren was off the table since I don’t respond well to it (depression) and my old lady would probably leave me. So he threw in primo and I can get acetate (oral) and enanthate (oil). He wants me running the acetate. I’m already going to be running winny and var at certain points and I guess I was just a little… concerned??? 3 orals seems a little excessive.

I would just like a second opinion from you guys who have a much broader breadth of knowledge.

Thanks!

 

[CrunchyRice]

You didn’t mention any form of test as a base. So I assume this coach is telling you to run an oral only cycle with no testosterone at all?

 

[JAKRPH]

CrunchyRice" pid='97287' dateline='1598580773:

You didn’t mention any form of test as a base. So I assume this coach is telling you to run an oral only cycle with no testosterone at all?

Oh no, there’s test in there. Going to be running test c/p, Mast, EQ, Primo, Winny, Var, T3/4 and Clen.

I was just concerned about the orals. Sorry.

 

[Pharmahgh]

JAKRPH" pid='97290' dateline='1598581402:

CrunchyRice" pid='97287' dateline='1598580773:

You didn’t mention any form of test as a base. So I assume this coach is telling you to run an oral only cycle with no testosterone at all?

Oh no, there’s test in there. Going to be running test c/p, Mast, EQ, Primo, Winny, Var, T3/4 and Clen.

I was just concerned about the orals. Sorry.

No man looks about right Im assuming test cyp, EQ, primo at start of prep adding winny, var, t3,and clen later and switching to test prop? your good man its going to completely shut you down and throw your bloods out of wack . liver enzymes will be high your GFR kidney filtration rate will probably be off as well as creatinine, Hemocrit will be high most likely . This is not definite its what happens to me before during and after a show until I pull things back and work on getting everything back to normal. bottom line . its a risk def not the healthiest thing to do. we do take a chance running a lot of gear before a show. chances are that if your healthy meaning your bloods are good now, you should be fine . There are a lot of excellent supplements that worked wonders for my kidneys and liver. I suggest you look into some

 

[JAKRPH]

Pharmahgh" pid='97301' dateline='1598586235:

JAKRPH" pid='97290' dateline='1598581402:

CrunchyRice" pid='97287' dateline='1598580773:

You didn’t mention any form of test as a base. So I assume this coach is telling you to run an oral only cycle with no testosterone at all?

Oh no, there’s test in there. Going to be running test c/p, Mast, EQ, Primo, Winny, Var, T3/4 and Clen.

I was just concerned about the orals. Sorry.

No man looks about right Im assuming test cyp, EQ, primo at start of prep adding winny, var, t3,and clen later and switching to test prop? your good man its going to completely shut you down and throw your bloods out of wack . liver enzymes will be high your GFR kidney filtration rate will probably be off as well as creatinine, Hemocrit will be high most likely . This is not definite its what happens to me before during and after a show until I pull things back and work on getting everything back to normal. bottom line . its a risk def not the healthiest thing to do. we do take a chance running a lot of gear before a show. chances are that if your healthy meaning your bloods are good now, you should be fine . There are a lot of excellent supplements that worked wonders for my kidneys and liver. I suggest you look into some

Hey thanks for the reply.

I figured as much. I just wanted to get an outside opinion as well. I was kind of sketched out with the idea of running 2 orals then the addition of a third I was like hold up… lol

I’ll be taking some TUDCA, milk thistle, and a cycle support supp. Do you have any recommendations for kidney support?

 

[dudebro73]

JAKRPH" pid='97284' dateline='1598577094:

So I’m going to be going through my first cut/prep and I just had a question. Since this is my first prep, I’m not too knowledgeable on the topic. I told my coach that tren was off the table since I don’t respond well to it (depression) and my old lady would probably leave me. So he threw in primo and I can get acetate (oral) and enanthate (oil). He wants me running the acetate. I’m already going to be running winny and var at certain points and I guess I was just a little… concerned??? 3 orals seems a little excessive.

I would just like a second opinion from you guys who have a much broader breadth of knowledge.

Thanks!

Like Proviron and Andriol, Primo Acetate is not 17-alpha-akylated so will not cause liver stress if that is your concern. Good luck on your prep, bro.

 

[bodydysmorphia]

Did he say oral primo? Or are you assuming oral because he said primo ace?

Oral primo is more cost prohibitive than pharma gh

 

[JAKRPH]

dudebro73" pid='97306' dateline='1598617926:

JAKRPH" pid='97284' dateline='1598577094:

So I’m going to be going through my first cut/prep and I just had a question. Since this is my first prep, I’m not too knowledgeable on the topic. I told my coach that tren was off the table since I don’t respond well to it (depression) and my old lady would probably leave me. So he threw in primo and I can get acetate (oral) and enanthate (oil). He wants me running the acetate. I’m already going to be running winny and var at certain points and I guess I was just a little… concerned??? 3 orals seems a little excessive.

I would just like a second opinion from you guys who have a much broader breadth of knowledge.

Thanks!

Like Proviron and Andriol, Primo Acetate is not 17-alpha-akylated so will not cause liver stress if that is your concern. Good luck on your prep, bro.

Awesome. I guess I should have looked to see if it was methylated lol Thank you for the reply!

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bodydysmorphia" pid='97307' dateline='1598620108:

Did he say oral primo? Or are you assuming oral because he said primo ace?

Oral primo is more cost prohibitive than pharma gh

huh, I’ll have to look into the prices and doses then. Definitely not made of money. Wanted to do a real prep once before I start med school and don’t have the time for such a commitment anymore. So I figured I would splurge at least once. Are there any cost effective alternatives you could suggest?

 

[CrunchyRice]

JAKRPH" pid='97290' dateline='1598581402:

CrunchyRice" pid='97287' dateline='1598580773:

You didn’t mention any form of test as a base. So I assume this coach is telling you to run an oral only cycle with no testosterone at all?

Oh no, there’s test in there. Going to be running test c/p, Mast, EQ, Primo, Winny, Var, T3/4 and Clen.

I was just concerned about the orals. Sorry.

Well, I am far from a “know it all” but I can tell you I have run a winstrol/var combo without any major impact on my blood values, and I was at moderate doses of both. Clen is hard on the circulatory system and I am sure you are already aware of that. I have zero experience with t3/t4 myself. As stated by another member here, I would say it’s effect on the liver is minimal, but I am unaware of it’s impact on kidney function. I just googled it for grins and found the same info on the web.

 

[digink]

I have had great success in preps running

test e at 600mg/wk
mast e at 600mg/wk
tren a at 350mg/wk (low dose tren I dont really get many sides and if I do they are only noticable towards the end)
var at 50-100mg/day
winny at 50-100/day (orals are pushed hard only towards the last 2 weeks at the higher dose)

going to try to throw in some proviron at 50mg/day last 4 weeks this time too, but the above has gotten me bone dry and shredded for most of my preps.

I have replaced the tren for primo in the past since I was also worried due to being prone to anxiety, it had a decent result but sadly nothing close to what the tren does.

 

[bodydysmorphia]

JAKRPH" pid='97309' dateline='1598622719:

dudebro73" pid='97306' dateline='1598617926:

JAKRPH" pid='97284' dateline='1598577094:

So I’m going to be going through my first cut/prep and I just had a question. Since this is my first prep, I’m not too knowledgeable on the topic. I told my coach that tren was off the table since I don’t respond well to it (depression) and my old lady would probably leave me. So he threw in primo and I can get acetate (oral) and enanthate (oil). He wants me running the acetate. I’m already going to be running winny and var at certain points and I guess I was just a little… concerned??? 3 orals seems a little excessive.

I would just like a second opinion from you guys who have a much broader breadth of knowledge.

Thanks!

Like Proviron and Andriol, Primo Acetate is not 17-alpha-akylated so will not cause liver stress if that is your concern. Good luck on your prep, bro.

Awesome. I guess I should have looked to see if it was methylated lol Thank you for the reply!

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bodydysmorphia" pid='97307' dateline='1598620108:

Did he say oral primo? Or are you assuming oral because he said primo ace?

Oral primo is more cost prohibitive than pharma gh

huh, I’ll have to look into the prices and doses then. Definitely not made of money. Wanted to do a real prep once before I start med school and don’t have the time for such a commitment anymore. So I figured I would splurge at least once. Are there any cost effective alternatives you could suggest?

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CrunchyRice" pid='97469' dateline='1598813042:

JAKRPH" pid='97290' dateline='1598581402:

CrunchyRice" pid='97287' dateline='1598580773:

You didn’t mention any form of test as a base. So I assume this coach is telling you to run an oral only cycle with no testosterone at all?

Oh no, there’s test in there. Going to be running test c/p, Mast, EQ, Primo, Winny, Var, T3/4 and Clen.

I was just concerned about the orals. Sorry.

Well, I am far from a “know it all” but I can tell you I have run a winstrol/var combo without any major impact on my blood values, and I was at moderate doses of both. Clen is hard on the circulatory system and I am sure you are already aware of that. I have zero experience with t3/t4 myself. As stated by another member here, I would say it’s effect on the liver is minimal, but I am unaware of it’s impact on kidney function. I just googled it for grins and found the same info on the web.

Honestly your stack is perfectly fine without the primo if you’re trying to save money. No need to swap it for anything else.