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NPP advice

Bout to begin my first cycle of NPP/TEST. What should the ratio be to not experience ED? Will have AIs on deck as well as Caber. Appreciate the help.
 
Test and npp is a good first cycle . My first cycle ever was very low 300 test e and 100 deca . Saw good results with that actually . Now I run 500 test 250 npp and blow up amazing . If this is your first cycle ever don’t be scared to go on lower side. You can always add after 3 weeks . 300 test 150 npp will be plenty
 

EpicFlash

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Bout to begin my first cycle of NPP/TEST. What should the ratio be to not experience ED? Will have AIs on deck as well as Caber. Appreciate the help.
Are you using test prop?
I have run 100T 100NPP EOD for simplicity sake and never had any ED or any other side effects and usually just ran .25 or .5 adex every 3rd day.
Nice solid cycle with decent gains and appearance during cycles.
 
Test and npp is a good first cycle . My first cycle ever was very low 300 test e and 100 deca . Saw good results with that actually . Now I run 500 test 250 npp and blow up amazing . If this is your first cycle ever don’t be scared to go on lower side. You can always add after 3 weeks . 300 test 150 npp will be plenty
Well second cycle, my first cycle was Test E 500mg. Is Test E okay or Test Prop because of the ester?
 
Are you using test prop?
I have run 100T 100NPP EOD for simplicity sake and never had any ED or any other side effects and usually just ran .25 or .5 adex every 3rd day.
Nice solid cycle with decent gains and appearance during cycles.
Originally thought of doing Test E, should I do Test Prop?
 

Nandrolorian

Active member
I'm currently running test cyp with npp. I pin Monday Wednesday Friday for simplicity, 500test 300 npp/wk, while I've just started this portion of the cycle, on paper the pin schedule is just fine.
 

EpicFlash

Active member
Originally thought of doing Test E, should I do Test Prop?
It is personal preference. I have done it both ways and just prefer to match longer esters to longer esters and shorter to shorter. Although on paper, it probably doesn’t make any difference, I seem to have better control of the test /bloat/water sides with prop. I also believe you get more stable test levels in beginning and end of cycle with prop…… certainly not prepared to try to explain why…just my empirical evidence. So when I am going to be pinning ED or EOD for the second compound, I match the test ester to that compound.
 

Thrasymachus

Active member
For me it's always 3 to 1 T/NPP. With this I don't usually run into ED problems, but that's not to say someone else wouldn't.

The thing is with NPP is to start out much less than you think you need. Go ahead and do 20mg 3 times a week and see what it does, it might be all you need. NPP for me is slower steady gains, but it's easier to control if you dose small and more frequently.

These days people are wising up and realizing fast gains in weight is usually sloppy, you want slow quality gains, not this bloated water look that can happen if you start using more than you really need. The more NPP you use the more T you have to use and then you're asking for trouble with water gain.

The only problem I get with NPP is elevated blood pressure, about 10 points higher.

If performance with the ladies is what you're worried about I'd keep some mast prop on hand to get the DHT you need to ramp up your libido.
 
For me it's always 3 to 1 T/NPP. With this I don't usually run into ED problems, but that's not to say someone else wouldn't.

The thing is with NPP is to start out much less than you think you need. Go ahead and do 20mg 3 times a week and see what it does, it might be all you need. NPP for me is slower steady gains, but it's easier to control if you dose small and more frequently.

These days people are wising up and realizing fast gains in weight is usually sloppy, you want slow quality gains, not this bloated water look that can happen if you start using more than you really need. The more NPP you use the more T you have to use and then you're asking for trouble with water gain.

The only problem I get with NPP is elevated blood pressure, about 10 points higher.

If performance with the ladies is what you're worried about I'd keep some mast prop on hand to get the DHT you need to ramp up your libido.
thanks brother, what would the mast prop dosage be?
 
It is personal preference. I have done it both ways and just prefer to match longer esters to longer esters and shorter to shorter. Although on paper, it probably doesn’t make any difference, I seem to have better control of the test /bloat/water sides with prop. I also believe you get more stable test levels in beginning and end of cycle with prop…… certainly not prepared to try to explain why…just my empirical evidence. So when I am going to be pinning ED or EOD for the second compound, I match the test ester to that compound.
thanks man gonna switch over to test prop
 

Astro95

Member
thanks bro, any advice for the ED concerns?
You shouldn’t run into any especially with the dosages you described. NPP is way more forgiving than Deca imo even though they’re both nandrolones just attached to different esters. If you do experience any ED issues simply taper down the NPP or raise test, beauty of fast acting esters, they’re easier to manipulate and you should be back on track. You run too much Deca and your dick stops working it’s gonna take a minute to get everything back functioning. You should be okay, 600-200 is a good safe ratio.
 

cc4me

Member
Not sure about your age, but I didn't start having ED issues while on deca or npp until late 40s. Mid 50s now and cialis or Viagra helps a bunch, but still less sensitivity.
 

Thrasymachus

Active member
thanks man gonna switch over to test prop
Mast prop is the ester I suggest because it works faster and hits harder than enanthate, which for me is weak sauce.

Honestly you don't need more than 20mg every other day for that as well.

Mast doesn't cause water gain, obviously it drys you out so it's not a matter of too much when it comes to mast, it's just that it can if you do it for say 6-8 weeks cause so much libido that you end with a pecker that is hard as a rock, but you can't feel hardly anything. It's like a piece of wood that is ready to work and of course eventually it causes you to have much less ejaculate, but your brain is telling you to screw all the time.

So prop goes to work pretty fast, 72hrs and your erection will levitate you out of bed if you sleep on your stomach, you don't want to wear sweat pants or fabric in public that would show your aroused state, you'll want to wear sun glasses with a mirror finish because you will be staring at every hot girls ass that walks by. In other words you're on the verge of being a creep, but you're under control so you don't get arrested.
 
Mast prop is the ester I suggest because it works faster and hits harder than enanthate, which for me is weak sauce.

Honestly you don't need more than 20mg every other day for that as well.

Mast doesn't cause water gain, obviously it drys you out so it's not a matter of too much when it comes to mast, it's just that it can if you do it for say 6-8 weeks cause so much libido that you end with a pecker that is hard as a rock, but you can't feel hardly anything. It's like a piece of wood that is ready to work and of course eventually it causes you to have much less ejaculate, but your brain is telling you to screw all the time.

So prop goes to work pretty fast, 72hrs and your erection will levitate you out of bed if you sleep on your stomach, you don't want to wear sweat pants or fabric in public that would show your aroused state, you'll want to wear sun glasses with a mirror finish because you will be staring at every hot girls ass that walks by. In other words you're on the verge of being a creep, but you're under control so you don't get arrested.
So Mast, Test P, and NPP or just mast/npp
 
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