Nolvadex confusing testing results

[MuscleMongoose]

Dude I'm not really sure what you're talking about now. I don't know if you've noticed or not, but almost everything from ugl is off a little. That's why they post test and results so you can see the purity and know how to dose accordingly. If you plan on using ugl, you better get used to it being off. Like I said before, even pharma is off. If I remember right, you're still using a prescription? I can 100% guarantee it's not exactly 200 or 250mg.

I’d go indian generic for any ancillaries. Even tho if you look into Indian generics it gets worse.

The scary truth behind generic drugs in India

Often, generic drugs manufacturers produce medicines of higher quality for European and American markets, where regulation is tighter, whilst blithely selling inferior and ineffective drugs in India

www.hindustantimes.com

But I think the Indian companies on Sst are pretty good to trust

 

[MuscleMongoose]

Man I'm pretty sure it does. It tests for that and that's what shows up. I mean if you send in Tylenol and get back 50mg Acetaminophen, that's what it is. Listen man, if the sources tests results from Janoshik come back as 16mg , 18, 21mg or 10mg Nolva, that's what it is. Same with anything else that is sent in. If you can't believe or trust those results, you won't be able to trust any of them. Every single compound they sell is going to come back different than advertised. Just the way it is. Maybe someone else can explain it better.

It’s not though dude… the deus pharmaceuticals guy even chimed in and said ugl doses them wrong accord to how they should be dosed.

The only thing you’re right about is at least you will know how much you are getting because the vendors at least tested it. Which is good

 

[KillTheKing]

It’s not though dude… the deus pharmaceuticals guy even chimed in and said ugl doses them wrong accord to how they should be dosed.

The only thing you’re right about is at least you will know how much you are getting because the vendors at least tested it. Which is good

Ok so we are saying the same thing! You know what you are getting. You aren't actually getting 20mg, you're getting 17mg. Sure they could make the next batch stronger or better and they generally do. Just like EVERY OTHER compound they sell. You just have to find the right source that has the closest to what you're looking for. I'm not really sure if you're mad at not getting 20mg or the reason you're not getting 20mg.

 

[MuscleMongoose]

Ok so we are saying the same thing! You know what you are getting. You aren't actually getting 20mg, you're getting 17mg. Sure they could make the next batch stronger or better and they generally do. Just like EVERY OTHER compound they sell. You just have to find the right source that has the closest to what you're looking for. I'm not really sure if you're mad at not getting 20mg or the reason you're not getting 20mg.

No I’m confused on the pharmacology of it.

If 30mg tamoxifen citrate equals 20mg tamoxifen then how much does 17 mg tamoxifen equal in tamoxifen.

It appears the citrate adds around 8-10mg of weight so therefor I guess 17 mg tamoxifen citrate is actually 10mg actual tamoxifen.

 

[KillTheKing]

No I’m confused on the pharmacology of it.

If 30mg tamoxifen citrate equals 20mg tamoxifen then how much does 17 mg tamoxifen equal in tamoxifen.

It appears the citrate adds around 8-10mg of weight so therefor I guess 17 mg tamoxifen citrate is actually 10mg actual tamoxifen.

Buddy I don't know how else to explain it to you. The same way the test never comes out to exactly 250. Maybe their raws were only let's say 96% so the 30mg actually was 27 minus the 10mg you're saying the citrate weighs. You have 17mg left. Whatever the Jahnoshik test says it is, thats what it is. It's just the way it is. If the source can prove their 20mg had 17mg in it then that's what it is. Find the source that can prove they have the highest mg of what you're looking for. That's the only way you can do it. Hope that helps.

 

[MuscleMongoose]

Buddy I don't know how else to explain it to you. The same way the test never comes out to exactly 250. It's just the way it is. If the source can prove their 20mg had 17mg in it then that's what it is. Find the source that can prove they have the highest mg of what you're looking for. That's the only way you can do it. Hope that helps.

Buddy I don’t know how else to explain to you you don’t understand what I’m getting at.

 

[MuscleMongoose]

Buddy I don’t know how else to explain to you you don’t understand what I’m getting at.

I am not here to say x y a source has 17 mg tamoxifen instead of 20mg tamoxifen.

I am here to say what’s the actual tamoxifen you are getting.

Because if 30mg of tamoxifen CITRATE (the fucking chemical name ) equals 20 mg tamoxifen and prices are based on that. Liska and Indian pharma

Then sources with 20mg tamoxifen CITRATE should be labeling it as 10mg not 20mg. They are selling 10mg tamoxifen as 20mg tamoxifen.

If Liska who is Ugl can get that principle then all the other ugls should too.

 

[KillTheKing]

I am not here to say x y a source has 17 mg tamoxifen instead of 20mg tamoxifen.

I am here to say what’s the actual tamoxifen you are getting.

Because if 30mg of tamoxifen CITRATE (the fucking chemical name ) equals 20 mg tamoxifen and prices are based on that. Liska and Indian pharma

Then sources with 20mg tamoxifen CITRATE should be labeling it as 10mg not 20mg. They are selling 10mg tamoxifen as 20mg tamoxifen.

If Liska who is Ugl can get that principle then all the other ugls should too.

Jesus Christ man. It doesn't matter if the source says they have 2626636mg Tamoxifen CITRATE. If you send it off to be tested and it says there's 17mg Tamoxifen CITRATE then that's what it is. You're overthinking it. You really are.

 

[MuscleMongoose]

Jesus Christ man. It doesn't matter if the source says they have 2626636mg Tamoxifen CITRATE. If you send it off to be tested and it says there's 17mg Tamoxifen CITRATE then that's what it is. You're overthinking it. You really are.

Jesus Christ bro it’s like talking to a fucking wall god damn it.

You don’t understand.

 

[Sammy J]

Jesus Christ bro it’s like talking to a fucking wall god damn it.

You don’t understand.

I think you’re misunderstanding how the testing works. The end result of the test IS what you’re getting. The test doesn’t tell you how much was mixed to get that number. If the end result says 17 then it is 17. Not 17 but you’re only getting 8. If the test result says 20 then it’s 20, so on and so forth.

 

[MuscleMongoose]

I think you’re misunderstanding how the testing works. The end result of the test IS what you’re getting. The test doesn’t tell you how much was mixed to get that number. If the end result says 17 then it is 17. Not 17 but you’re only getting 8. If the test result says 20 then it’s 20, so on and so forth.

And you’re confused on the point here.

Tamoxifen citrate is the chemical right ?

So if 30mg tamoxifen citrate is the amount you need to be getting “20 mg tamoxifen “ as your medication.

Then 17mg tamoxifen citrate is more or less 10mg of tamoxifen as your medication.

So they should be relabeling
it as 10mg.

Since the citrate adds weight and the citrate is part of the testing every time.

That’s what im getting at

Just like the deus pharmaceuticals guy said.

 

[Sammy J]

And you’re confused on the point here.

Tamoxifen citrate is the chemical right ?

So if 30mg tamoxifen citrate is the amount you need to be getting “20 mg tamoxifen “ as your medication.

Then 17mg tamoxifen citrate is more or less 10mg of tamoxifen as your medication.

So they should be relabeling
it as 10mg.

Since the citrate adds weight and the citrate is part of the testing every time.

That’s what im getting at

Just like the deus pharmaceuticals guy said.

Ok, I see what you’re saying. Yes you are correct, when “Pharma” Nolvadex is sold as 20mg tabs the testing does come back at 30ish mg tamoxifen citrate. When you look at testing from sources that also test and sell Pharma tamox, that is what you’ll see as the end result of the test

 

[MuscleMongoose]

Ok, I see what you’re saying. Yes you are correct, when “Pharma” Nolvadex is sold as 20mg tabs the testing does come back at 30ish mg tamoxifen citrate. When you look at testing from sources that also test and sell Pharma tamox, that is what you’ll see as the end result of the test

Correct.

So that’s my point. Why is every source but one selling theirs at 20mg price when it reality it should be sold at 10mg price.

Liska is ugl and does it correctly. That’s the only one I saw so far.

 

[KillTheKing]

Correct.

So that’s my point. Why is every source but one selling theirs at 20mg price when it reality it should be sold at 10mg price.

Liska is ugl and does it correctly. That’s the only one I saw so far.

Ok I apologize. I must have misread or misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying 30mg was coming back as 20mg. You're saying 20mg comes back as 30mg. That changes the whole story. Still, all I have to go by is the test results. If it says it tested as 20mg, I don't have the know how or resources to test it any other way. Hope you figure it out. Maybe a source can chime in and tell us what their Nolva actually is. I would tag people but I'm not sure how to @ lol. Can someone help me with that? That's the real question

 

[KillTheKing]

Oh and btw, I just got some Easy Touch 27ga 1/2 1cc. There's absolutely no dead space in those and they're like $15ish. Not sure if you've tried those but you might want to give them a shot.

 

[MuscleMongoose]

Oh and btw, I just got some Easy Touch 27ga 1/2 1cc. There's absolutely no dead space in those and they're like $15ish. Not sure if you've tried those but you might want to give them a shot.

Thanks. Yeah I ended up finding 25g 1 inch insulin style syringes with absolutely zero dead space. They are pretty sick. Once you’re done and push it all the way down it clicks and it becomes retractable. There’s zero space left at the end. Only thing is they were kinda expensive

 

[Deleted member 21405]

I always read the jano report as they test the active ingredients found, but I am fairly clueless when it comes to this stuff. Good topic to bring up. I know nothing about how things are brewed