New TRT user looking for advice..

[TjLavin]

Hey guys, I just got prescribed TRT at 30 years old after being diagnosed with a total T levels of 270 ng/dL…I’ve taken 3 cycles of prohormones in the past (epistane, halodrol, and another I cannot think of) starting when I was like 25 years old. My current prescription is:
-Test C 80mg e3.5d
-HCG 500iu e3.5d
-Arimidex as needed .125mg

Figure I’ll get dialed in with my TRT regiment, drop some body fat, then add a compound to the list. What’s the smart route to go? I’ll be giving blood tests every 6 months after my initial 3month Lab after starting.

 

[MentalPariah]

I’m super surprised a dr wrote a scrip for trt at 30, and with those levels. I was diagnosed with central hypogonadism or secondary pituitary something or a other…dont remember. My test levels at 30 were between 75 and 150ng/dl (varied blood test to blood test) and it took begging to get a monthly shot of test. I’ve since fixed that problem obviously Haha

In my opinion give the trt time to get rolling and dialed in. If you want to use more more test you’re pretty much going to be blasting and cruising so use whatever you deem fit I guess.

 

[Curli]

I was prescribed trt at a very young age and it takes time to get fully dialed in, you don’t want to be messing around with anything before finding out what protocol works best for you. I’d wait it out before blasting and cruising, just going from low t to trt levels will have a huge impact on your training and quality of life. Once you’re dialed in you won’t need to get frequent blood work anymore which’ll give you more time and freedom to blast high test/other compounds

 

[beefnewton]

160mg a week is way more than needed for TOTAL replacement, and you are only deficient. Doctors are idiots. Also, Arimidex “as needed?” How are you supposed to know? E2 is an endless chase. Not sure why the hCG is even in there at that test dose; it’s going to affect your E2 levels due to intra-testicular production, which an AI won’t be able to touch.

 

[system]

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160mg a week is way more than needed for TOTAL replacement, and you are only deficient. Doctors are idiots. Also, Arimidex “as needed?” How are you supposed to know? E2 is an endless chase. Not sure why the hCG is even in there at that test dose; it’s going to affect your E2 levels due to intra-testicular production, which an AI won’t be able to touch.

With all due respect, your first comment stating that 160 is definitively way more than a replacement dose is inaccurate. Everybody is different in terms of their response rate. 200 mg from the pharmacy puts my dad in the 700s. 100 mg from the same pharmacy puts me over 1000. We were both in the 200s for total testosterone prior to starting treatment just like this guy was, granted I was 10 years younger than him and my dad 20 years older.

Your comment regarding AI is absolutely correct, using it “as needed” based on feel is definitely a poor approach.

hCG is very commonly prescribed alongside TRT for fertility, cosmetic, and QoL benefits. Many individuals do not experience any issues related to elevated estrogen while on it. I am one of those people, and I am actually an estrogen sensitive individual. Should he experience such issues, adjustments should absolutely be made, but a blanket statement doesn’t apply to these types of scenarios. With that said, 500 IU is somewhat excessive, 250 would be a more realistic dose at his current frequency given that he’s been on it since he began treatment and isn’t trying to conceive.

 

[TjLavin]

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160mg a week is way more than needed for TOTAL replacement, and you are only deficient. Doctors are idiots. Also, Arimidex “as needed?” How are you supposed to know? E2 is an endless chase. Not sure why the hCG is even in there at that test dose; it’s going to affect your E2 levels due to intra-testicular production, which an AI won’t be able to touch.

Your comment regarding AI is absolutely correct, using it “as needed” based on feel is definitely a poor approach.

Thanks for the replies guys.

I do plan to conceive in the next 5 years and would like to maintain the size of my balls, so I was prescribed HCG at that dose.

My E2 levels prior to starting were 10 pg/ml…after 3 months of taking Clomid (trying a restart) they put me on TRT. My E2 levels after this were 29.3 pg/ml. The doctor said it was really up to me whether I start the Arimidex now, or wait until sides came up. He initially said to wait on dosing it until potential sides came up, however I was worried about my E2 levels being in the upper range due to the Clomid, so he said I could start the first week of TRT.

I was on another forum (ExcelMale) and found plenty of posts from people who said that crashed E2 levels suck bad and it’s a lot easier to bring down levels versus bringing them up. Coming from low E2 symptoms and feeling like a brittle old lady, I’d rather not feel like that again.

Bloodwork is due 3 months after my first shot, however, I’m going to get my E2 levels checked at 6 weeks to have a reason to use the Adex…is this not a wise approach? What else should I consider? As everyone can probably see I’m new to the game and just looking to soak up as much knowledge as possible.

Thanks again