Low E2 forever - Sorta Kinda nervous breakdown ish

[Bznj]

Alright so I just met with a couple docs over the last couple weeks and my joints are beyond fucked, painful pops and cracks waking me up at night. I’m blaming years of low E2 naturally (only been confirmed in 2016, 2018,2019 we’re talking 10-12 pg/ml on average in spite of normal test, well guess what a high T/E ratio is trash apparently. Don’t see a reason why I’d have had higher E2 in the past)

I’m 31yo 6’3 205 single digit bf% year round, literally dick skin always, girls love it but they would like it less if they knew I need cialis & pomegranate juice to function.

Docs told me that more weightlifting is an absolute no go for now. Clearly my focus should be on rehab, well first and foremost I’ll definitely listen and cause no more harm. But my E2 ain’t getting anywhere without drugs.

E2 has only come back above 30 on HCG mono when I’ve tried that for a couple months. It’s only been above 40 on 200ish mg/wk of test back in 2017. And yeah back in those days I could fucking squat heavy and do all sorts of things like my joints were smooth peanut fucking butter. Hopping on and off TRT didn’t change shit for Test and E2 likewise. Same damn numbers pre/post. Actually if anything my T/E2 ratio “improved” from damn 80 in 2016 to 50ish as of last fall.

What would y’all do? I’m thinking that TRT for joints repair & E2 optimization sounds borderline reckless but I don’t see another better option. Plus I would at least preserve all my gains doing gay pushups and whatnot. It may speed up recovery to have higher estradiol for a year or two. That’s my rationale. And my hair seems to recede quite a bit which is expected when E2 is permacrashed, right?

Anyways.

Opinions? Isolated Low E2 seems to be rare AF online. Oh and before someone suggests “get fatter” well I’ve tried and got pre diabetic in no time, with the worst lipids ever no matter how clean the diet (I don’t bulk on cookies and pizzas that’s what I’m saying)

 

[appropionate]

depends on your definition of TRT but if you shoot for the upper reference range there’s nothing much reckless about it while your e2 should hopefully be >30. what was your test at on 200mg, do you recall?

you do seem to have weird health issues but I’ll ignore the rest of your post.

 

[Bznj]

Yeah I wrote too much in one go ha.

Both HCG&TRT had my T above 600 at a trough. Granted, I’d pin test once a week and HCG E3D. I’ve always thought that checking at a trough is a better way to control for accumulation and adjusting frequencies accordingly.

 

[Dexter]

Looks like you need some water gains.

Have you tried 500mg of Test every 5 days? You could always try some Deca Durabolin as well.

Stay away from all DHT compounds.

Bump up your calories, don’t be afraid of the power lifting potbelly.

 

[Bznj]

Yeah I’ve intuitively always stayed away from dry stuff. I don’t see the point plus my scalp & skin are dry enough as is.

I’m more so afraid of diabetes, I wish I could get fatter without my bloodwork going insane. It’s apparently common in Asians to have T2D at lower BMIs and I’m part Asian so. I’ll blame it on genetics (and no I don’t eat refined carbs / sugar!)

https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/38/1/150

^ I definitely don’t have that peripheral adipose genetics, even DXA scans showed rapid increases in visceral fat on a bulk back in 2016/2017. That’s when I got HBA1c at 6.2% in July 2017 after being scanned at 9.2% fat. Ridiculous.

I hear you on more T. 300mg /wk is what I have in mind to be fully honest. Could be half Test half Nandrolone.

 

[Dexter]

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I hear you on more T. 300mg /wk is what I have in mind to be fully honest. Could be half Test half Nandrolone.

Honestly try out the higher dose Test without Deca and see what that does.

You might find that you start putting on some water and your joints feel fine. No use adding Deca which has side effects, and like all 19nor compounds I have questions about long term mental side effects, we know the joint benefits are well documented. The conversion to DHN as opposed to DHT can effect your erection, so test has to be ran side by side at all times.

 

[Bznj]

Agreed on 19nors, I’m not huge on them. Will inject one drug at a time.

Alright great advices, straightforward, I appreciate it. I’ll fiddle with various test doses, ramping up till I feel like my joints are lubricated again.