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Lipid panel

Gainscity

Active member
Hello guys I’m concerned about my lipid panel. I had it checked back in April and it was trash. I’m not overweight or anything I’m at about 12% bf. I have been supplementing fish oil, red yeast rice, coq10, and niacin for it. I could clean my diet up. Been dirty bulking a bit too much. It has got better but still not great. Help me bros.

This was last week
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This is April’s
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Currently taking
Test C 600mg
NPP 300mg
Proviron 50mg/day
HCG 250iu 2X weekly
Anastrozole .5mg 2X weekly
BPC-157 250mcg 2X daily
 
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Deleted member 21405

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Astragalus, resveratrol, citrus bergamot, nac. All help improve your lipid panel.

Also, maybe take a breather after this cycle and just cruise for like 6 months and check again

Edit: eat more oatmeal too
 

Gainscity

Active member
Astragalus, resveratrol, citrus bergamot, nac. All help improve your lipid panel.

Also, maybe take a breather after this cycle and just cruise for like 6 months and check again

Edit: eat more oatmeal too
Ok thanks for the advice. And btw I already eat a shit ton of oats not sure if I could eat anymore that’d drive me insane 🤣
 
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Deleted member 21405

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Ok thanks for the advice. And btw I already eat a shit ton of oats not sure if I could eat anymore that’d drive me insane 🤣
Haha goes without saying just gotta take a break from the gear for awhile and try to get those numbers in great territory. Last time I got labs my cholesterol was in range, but close to not, but I did just come off a moderate cycle. Prior my labs were fantastic after a year of only 250 per week test. Makes a difference

But yes all of those things should help. Some is bro science some is real science.
 

achba

Member
Cut out sauturated fat which raises your LDL. HDL is not an important number, total LDL is the best and most accurate predictor of cardiovascular disease that we have. ApoB and Apo(a) are also good tests to get, they are a bit newer and we dont really have meds to treat but they are also accurate in predicting cardiovascular risk.

You are in the 80th percentile according to the MESA percentiles for LDL cholesterol, you should aim to be in the 20th percentile or below, LDL 93 or lower. LDL builds up in your arteries and greatly increases your risk of stroke and heart attack. Statins can cut that in half easily. A lot of people report side effects like muscle pain and misinformation about "cognitive issues" however when people were given pills that looked the same but contained no medication, they reported the same side effects.

Do not bother with natural supplements, red yeast rice is commonly mentioned since it is where the first statin called lovastatin was isolated. Since it became a medication, manufactuers are required by law to take the lovastatin out of the red yeast rice. If natural supplements were effective, they would have become medications already. Rosuvastatin is commonly said to have the least side effects because it mostly stays in the blood instead of going into tissues, but generally statins are side effect free and help prevent heart attack, stroke, coronary artery disease, and stabilising or even slightly regressing existing plaques.

HDL is said to remove plaque from the arteries but trials showed that raising HDL did not improve cardiovascular outcomes (niacin for example raises HDL, in addition to causing liver damage in some people). If you are still worried about it statins themselves modestly raise HDL.
 

Gainscity

Active member
Cut out sauturated fat which raises your LDL. HDL is not an important number, total LDL is the best and most accurate predictor of cardiovascular disease that we have. ApoB and Apo(a) are also good tests to get, they are a bit newer and we dont really have meds to treat but they are also accurate in predicting cardiovascular risk.

You are in the 80th percentile according to the MESA percentiles for LDL cholesterol, you should aim to be in the 20th percentile or below, LDL 93 or lower. LDL builds up in your arteries and greatly increases your risk of stroke and heart attack. Statins can cut that in half easily. A lot of people report side effects like muscle pain and misinformation about "cognitive issues" however when people were given pills that looked the same but contained no medication, they reported the same side effects.

Do not bother with natural supplements, red yeast rice is commonly mentioned since it is where the first statin called lovastatin was isolated. Since it became a medication, manufactuers are required by law to take the lovastatin out of the red yeast rice. If natural supplements were effective, they would have become medications already. Rosuvastatin is commonly said to have the least side effects because it mostly stays in the blood instead of going into tissues, but generally statins are side effect free and help prevent heart attack, stroke, coronary artery disease, and stabilising or even slightly regressing existing plaques.

HDL is said to remove plaque from the arteries but trials showed that raising HDL did not improve cardiovascular outcomes (niacin for example raises HDL, in addition to causing liver damage in some people). If you are still worried about it statins themselves modestly raise HDL.
Yeah I do need to eat cleaner I think I’m dirty bulking too much and it’s damaging my lipids. I know the gear doesn’t help on top of it. I’ll clean it up and do you think I should go on meds for it? I’ve always preferred taking care of such issues through diet/exercise instead.
 

achba

Member
Yeah I do need to eat cleaner I think I’m dirty bulking too much and it’s damaging my lipids. I know the gear doesn’t help on top of it. I’ll clean it up and do you think I should go on meds for it? I’ve always preferred taking care of such issues through diet/exercise instead.
If you cant get it under 93 with exercise/diet alone you should go on a statin. Supplements arent going to work - statins are safe, time tested drugs.You dont want to play with your LDL because it can be a death sentence or cause severe debilitation should you had a heart attack/stroke. Hows your BP? If your BP is high it adds another risk factor which further increases your chance of a cardiovascular or cerebral event.

Ive read a bit about proviron messing with your cholesterol more than others, maybe drop that and eat cleaner and see where its at after.
 

Gainscity

Active member
If you cant get it under 93 with exercise/diet alone you should go on a statin. Supplements arent going to work - statins are safe, time tested drugs.You dont want to play with your LDL because it can be a death sentence or cause severe debilitation should you had a heart attack/stroke. Hows your BP? If your BP is high it adds another risk factor which further increases your chance of a cardiovascular or cerebral event.

Ive read a bit about proviron messing with your cholesterol more than others, maybe drop that and eat cleaner and see where its at after.
Okay I’m going to re check blood work in 4-6 weeks and see if I can get it down more. If I don’t I’ll talk to my doctor about getting on a statin. I don’t want to mess around with this. And my BP is good typically between 110-120s/70-80s.
 
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