HunterPharm bunk Raloxifene?

[oceanus99]

I’m currently on a tren test mast cycle and was on pharma Raloxifene for the first 6 weeks of the cycle with no gyno issues. The ralox was doing its job. I then ran out of the pharma ralox but had ordered @“HunterPharm” Raloxifene beforehand so I switched to his. Within a few days my gyno has started to flare up. I have made no other changes to my cycle. Has anyone else used his ralox? I’m even on a higher dose of his ralox. A 60mg cap twice a day. I was only doing 30mg twice a day of the pharma one.

Is there a way I can get his caps tested? This isn’t a bash on him, maybe he’s not capping his dosages right. What capping process do you use @“HunterPharm” ?

 

[thallandchill]

What dosages of Tren/Test and Mast are you running and what esters?

I ask this because it could be prolactin related gyno from the Tren. Are you or have you been taking any Caber or Prami?

 

[Fatbricks]

I doubt Hunter would sell bunk anything, at least not on purpose. Everything I’ve ever gotten from him is definitely gtg

 

[propionate]

Assuming you are using ralox as ai then in 6 weeks your estro will be very high, ralox is a serm so it doesn’t lower estrogen but instead blocks it from binding to certain tissues. Estrogen and prolactin (from the tren) act together to cause prolactin gyno flare ups

P5p dosages from 50-200mg show to reduce prolactin and it’s sold on amazon. I’d try it first and also any ai you like. I’d recommend asin b/c it destroys the enzyme instead of just binding to it

Here’s a link to the research on p5p
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...ison-to-Cabergoline?origin=publication_detail

 

[oceanus99]

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Assuming you are using ralox as ai then in 6 weeks your estro will be very high, ralox is a serm so it doesn’t lower estrogen but instead blocks it from binding to certain tissues. Estrogen and prolactin (from the tren) act together to cause prolactin gyno flare ups

P5p dosages from 50-200mg show to reduce prolactin and it’s sold on amazon. I’d try it first and also any ai you like. I’d recommend asin b/c it destroys the enzyme instead of just binding to it

Here’s a link to the research on p5p
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...ison-to-Cabergoline?origin=publication_detail

I’ve been on aromasin twice a day from the start. I’ll look into p5p. I’ve also been looking for a domestic caber source or a way to get caber quick. All international sources say 2+ week delivery.

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thallandchill" pid='59044' dateline='1561740447:

What dosages of Tren/Test and Mast are you running and what esters?

I ask this because it could be prolactin related gyno from the Tren. Are you or have you been taking any Caber or Prami?

No it definitely would be prolactin related. The Raloxifene is to prevent any binding to the glands in my nipples.

750 test E
560 tren A
700 mast prop

Unfortunately don’t have caber, but I’m trying to get some now. Looking for a domestic source that can get it to me fast. Please do recommend me a source if you have one

 

[mkg13c]

There are domestic options for caber as well. Many of the international sources have domestic shops too.

I’m currently using his Ralox, but I just started like a week ago so I can’t really say anything substantial yet. Also only using 60mg/day.

 

[oceanus99]

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There are domestic options for caber as well. Many of the international sources have domestic shops too.

I’m currently using his Ralox, but I just started like a week ago so I can’t really say anything substantial yet. Also only using 60mg/day.

Only domestic one I saw was southerncompounding who is out of stock.

 

[HunterPharm]

oceanus99" pid='59033' dateline='1561736842:

I’m currently on a tren test mast cycle and was on pharma Raloxifene for the first 6 weeks of the cycle with no gyno issues. The ralox was doing its job. I then ran out of the pharma ralox but had ordered @“HunterPharm” Raloxifene beforehand so I switched to his. Within a few days my gyno has started to flare up. I have made no other changes to my cycle. Has anyone else used his ralox? I’m even on a higher dose of his ralox. A 60mg cap twice a day. I was only doing 30mg twice a day of the pharma one.

Is there a way I can get his caps tested? This isn’t a bash on him, maybe he’s not capping his dosages right. What capping process do you use @“HunterPharm” ?

Hey! Reach out to Janoshik.com to get it tested! I fully stand behind my product and have it test myself before working on it. I would love to have some customer tested results for my stuff rather than just a bunch of my own self submitted tests since it helps my credibility! I’ll gladly compensate you for the costs associated with the test as well.

Capping process involves using a pharmaceutical grade v mixer to ensure an accurately dosed product. The filling process is done manually since machine use isn’t feasible for a domestic lab.

 

[Colaboyy]

oceanus99" pid='59033' dateline='1561736842:

I’m currently on a tren test mast cycle and was on pharma Raloxifene for the first 6 weeks of the cycle with no gyno issues. The ralox was doing its job. I then ran out of the pharma ralox but had ordered @“HunterPharm” Raloxifene beforehand so I switched to his. Within a few days my gyno has started to flare up. I have made no other changes to my cycle. Has anyone else used his ralox? I’m even on a higher dose of his ralox. A 60mg cap twice a day. I was only doing 30mg twice a day of the pharma one.

Is there a way I can get his caps tested? This isn’t a bash on him, maybe he’s not capping his dosages right. What capping process do you use @“HunterPharm” ?

This actually rings a bell with me. Ordered some Ralox from Han a few months ago… had zero success with it. Ended up going through two packs and just switched to some pharma Nolva I had on hand. Nolva ended up fixing the issue fairly quickly, (reason it took me so long to use it is I really dislike mood side effects I get on Nolva and I find Ralox to be more effective). I honestly trust Han’s products more than anybody on this forum, although I do think there may be an issue with this Ralox, sorry to say.

 

[FusionLabs]

I completely stand behind this source. I’ve sent my own family and close friends to him in the past when he was open for clients. Get it tested - if there is an issue - it certainly isn’t because of negligence On his part.

 

[HunterPharm]

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I completely stand behind this source. I’ve sent my own family and close friends to him in the past when he was open for clients. Get it tested - if there is an issue - it certainly isn’t because of negligence On his part.

Thanks for the good word! My reputation is worth a lot to me and I’m here to earn repeat business. If there’s any concerns or question about anything at all, I’d love to hear it and figure out what’s wrong.

 

[oceanus99]

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FusionLabs" pid='59187' dateline='1561859506:

I completely stand behind this source. I’ve sent my own family and close friends to him in the past when he was open for clients. Get it tested - if there is an issue - it certainly isn’t because of negligence On his part.

Thanks for the good word! My reputation is worth a lot to me and I’m here to earn repeat business. If there’s any concerns or question about anything at all, I’d love to hear it and figure out what’s wrong.

I’m just not sure what’s going on… I ended up finding a couple tabs of the pharma ralox I had before left over in a box. I used that for 3 days. All nipple sensitivity went away. Now I’m again back on your stuff for a couple days. My nips are puffy and sensitive again… I trust you man, but something is definitely up with your raloxifene. I’ve ordered pharma ralox. Counting the days till it’s in. In the meantime, I’m literally megadosing your raloxifene in hopes that it’ll do something. It’s frustrating because I’m prepping for a competition and now this is another issue I have to deal with.

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HunterPharm" pid='59175' dateline='1561852283:

oceanus99" pid='59033' dateline='1561736842:

I’m currently on a tren test mast cycle and was on pharma Raloxifene for the first 6 weeks of the cycle with no gyno issues. The ralox was doing its job. I then ran out of the pharma ralox but had ordered @“HunterPharm” Raloxifene beforehand so I switched to his. Within a few days my gyno has started to flare up. I have made no other changes to my cycle. Has anyone else used his ralox? I’m even on a higher dose of his ralox. A 60mg cap twice a day. I was only doing 30mg twice a day of the pharma one.

Is there a way I can get his caps tested? This isn’t a bash on him, maybe he’s not capping his dosages right. What capping process do you use @“HunterPharm” ?

Hey! Reach out to Janoshik.com to get it tested! I fully stand behind my product and have it test myself before working on it. I would love to have some customer tested results for my stuff rather than just a bunch of my own self submitted tests since it helps my credibility! I’ll gladly compensate you for the costs associated with the test as well.

Capping process involves using a pharmaceutical grade v mixer to ensure an accurately dosed product. The filling process is done manually since machine use isn’t feasible for a domestic lab.

By manual filling process… do you mean a manual capping machine? How do you measure your filler + compound?

 

[Allstar1233]

You have been running tren at 500mg wk for 6 wks with no caber? Dude get it together. Either you don’t know what the hell you are doing or you dont know what the hell you are doing. See, I have never gone through hunter but it pisses me the fuck off when some idiot doesn’t do his research and then when they get fucked up, blame it on bunk gear. 1st of all get shit tested before you start accusing sources. 2nd get off your gear now, do more research, get everything on hand that you may need, then maybe if you haven’t walked into traffic by then, restart blast. I would never want to source because of people like you. Getting stupid emails all the time, getting accused of shit cause they didn’t do their homework. Fuck that. Can we get a mod to ban this fucker.

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I just reread some shit. I call bullshit on the aromasin too. You said nothing about it in the OP, just that the ralox was “doing it’s job” then someone calls you out on an ai and you say you’re taking asin twice a day. GTFO you really have no business being on gear. If you were taking asin twice a day, gyno would be the least of your worries

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@“CaptainAmerica” take out the trash, stud.

 

[MattMatt93]

I read this Post when the Op first made the claim, Still went and purchased Ralox from Hunter last night because I am confident in his products and that the reason for the sides seem to be user error.

 

[oceanus99]

Allstar1233" pid='59350' dateline='1561992153:

You have been running tren at 500mg wk for 6 wks with no caber? Dude get it together. Either you don’t know what the hell you are doing or you dont know what the hell you are doing. See, I have never gone through hunter but it pisses me the fuck off when some idiot doesn’t do his research and then when they get fucked up, blame it on bunk gear. 1st of all get shit tested before you start accusing sources. 2nd get off your gear now, do more research, get everything on hand that you may need, then maybe if you haven’t walked into traffic by then, restart blast. I would never want to source because of people like you. Getting stupid emails all the time, getting accused of shit cause they didn’t do their homework. Fuck that. Can we get a mod to ban this fucker.

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I just reread some shit. I call bullshit on the aromasin too. You said nothing about it in the OP, just that the ralox was “doing it’s job” then someone calls you out on an ai and you say you’re taking asin twice a day. GTFO you really have no business being on gear. If you were taking asin twice a day, gyno would be the least of your worries

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@“CaptainAmerica” take out the trash, stud.

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Wtf? I’m using Hunter’s aromasin. All my gear is through hunter. I said I trust him. And yes, it’s my fault for running out of caber early into the cycle, and my normal caber source being out of stock, and I wasn’t having issues so I decided to wait on him to be in stock. This didn’t happen, I continued to wait (Yes, foolish of me. I should have ordered off another soruce).

I’ve been on aromasin since the BEGINNING of the cycle. I didn’t include that in the OP. I didn’t even include my cycle details in the OP. I’m not an idiot. I’ve done plenty of cycles, I compete, and I know the importance of AI. Prolactin issues can’t arise if estrogen is kept low. I know that. It would be foolish to not be on AI for this cycle. I’ve taken 6.25mg aromasin TWICE a day with a fat source. I bumped it to 12.5mg aromasin TWICE a day this past week.

I’ll continue to use Hunter for everything else besides Raloxifene. I love everything else I’ve tried from him. It’s just odd that my nipple issues go away so quickly as soon as I switch to pharma ralox vs. his.

 

[DNPstoney]

oceanus99" pid='59363' dateline='1562003443:

Allstar1233" pid='59350' dateline='1561992153:

You have been running tren at 500mg wk for 6 wks with no caber? Dude get it together. Either you don’t know what the hell you are doing or you dont know what the hell you are doing. See, I have never gone through hunter but it pisses me the fuck off when some idiot doesn’t do his research and then when they get fucked up, blame it on bunk gear. 1st of all get shit tested before you start accusing sources. 2nd get off your gear now, do more research, get everything on hand that you may need, then maybe if you haven’t walked into traffic by then, restart blast. I would never want to source because of people like you. Getting stupid emails all the time, getting accused of shit cause they didn’t do their homework. Fuck that. Can we get a mod to ban this fucker.

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I just reread some shit. I call bullshit on the aromasin too. You said nothing about it in the OP, just that the ralox was “doing it’s job” then someone calls you out on an ai and you say you’re taking asin twice a day. GTFO you really have no business being on gear. If you were taking asin twice a day, gyno would be the least of your worries

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@“CaptainAmerica” take out the trash, stud.

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Wtf? I’m using Hunter’s aromasin. All my gear is through hunter. I said I trust him. And yes, it’s my fault for running out of caber early into the cycle, and my normal caber source being out of stock, and I wasn’t having issues so I decided to wait on him to be in stock. This didn’t happen, I continued to wait (Yes, foolish of me. I should have ordered off another soruce).

I’ve been on aromasin since the BEGINNING of the cycle. I didn’t include that in the OP. I didn’t even include my cycle details in the OP. I’m not an idiot. I’ve done plenty of cycles, I compete, and I know the importance of AI. Prolactin issues can’t arise if estrogen is kept low. I know that. It would be foolish to not be on AI for this cycle. I’ve taken 6.25mg aromasin TWICE a day with a fat source. I bumped it to 12.5mg aromasin TWICE a day this past week.

I’ll continue to use Hunter for everything else besides Raloxifene. I love everything else I’ve tried from him. It’s just odd that my nipple issues go away so quickly as soon as I switch to pharma ralox vs. his.

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Ok man, the two of you seem pretty heated, so let’s just calm down a bit.

First of all, I think you need to do some research on Prolactin. How AAS (19-nors specifically, like the Tren you are running) interact with Prolactin and cause gyno and lactation. Ralox isn’t just a catch-all that prevents gyno no matter what; life would be a lot simpler that way. Ralox would be seen as an almost mandatory drug in any AAS users arsenal; instead, it is a very useful compound that has its niche.

Second, that is a fuck-ton of Asin. I would guess you are crashing your estrogen (on purpose?) unless you have bloods that show that you are not. If you don’t, I would get bloods to check you E2 levels and get your Prolactin checked as well.

Third, if you are getting gyno and don’t have the necessary ancillaries on hand, stop the Tren unless you have a reason you can’t (you say you compete - I would measure how much your current cycle is worth to you compared to the price of getting surgery to remove your gyno or dealing with having tits in competitions. It might be worth it for you, idk). You should always have backup ancillaries on hand. I wouldn’t recommend guys run blasts without an AI on hand (at least), Caber/Prami is basically the equivalent ancillary to 19-nors. P5P is ok, not as effective, but less sides and it is a legal supplement. It is expensive to run IMO though, not sure if that is an issue.

And lastly; send the Ralox off to be tested. The way it will work is: You can know for sure if it is legit, help the community, and be compensated by Hunter (who you say you will still use for everything about Ralox). And if it does come back bunk or underdosed (I doubt it, Han is boss), Han will compensate you probably extra, and more sources might be willing to help out. Really just a win-win-win, it just takes a bit more work then coming to the forum and making a post lol.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Whoa. So many tags.

OP you can’t make these sort of claims without hard evidence like a Jano test.

I’m closing this thread, but I will not ban you because I am feeling nice today. Maybe the tren I’m on is bunk idk. I’m kidding obviously