HGH Insulin Resistance

[jumdumpster]

I cannot find a solid answer anywhere
Do you take HGH fasted and do you wait to eat before/after?

 

[AlexDavis43]

I cannot find a solid answer anywhere
Do you take HGH fasted and do you wait to eat before/after?

A lot of bro-science here. The studies show no big difference unless comparing AM vs. PM dosing, in which case PM dosing mimics natural GH peaks more closely.

Anecdotally, you'll hear to take it fasted in the morning before cardio, pre or post workout, twice a day, etc., etc. That's minutiae imo.

 

[beefee321]

I think it totally depends on your goals. I've recently started monitoring my fasted blood glucose and compared it when I was not on cycle:
On cycle, 2ius upon going to bed, and 2ius upon waking, blood glucose an hour after getting up around 7am was low 100s. Not terrible, but that was fasted as I would stop eating around 530-6pm.
So heres where my low level knowledge isn't gonna help anyone, but essentially if insulin resistance is worse, and makes you have higher blood glucose levels, I would think that would hinder your efforts to both build muscle and burn fat, so that's what I'm trying to understand now, but for the purposes of your question, I personally tried to take hgh during my fasting windows, as to maximize fat loss, but if you're bulking or taking it for recovery, I don't know that it matters much. Just my uninformed ramblings and 2 cents.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I think it totally depends on your goals. I've recently started monitoring my fasted blood glucose and compared it when I was not on cycle:
On cycle, 2ius upon going to bed, and 2ius upon waking, blood glucose an hour after getting up around 7am was low 100s. Not terrible, but that was fasted as I would stop eating around 530-6pm.
So heres where my low level knowledge isn't gonna help anyone, but essentially if insulin resistance is worse, and makes you have higher blood glucose levels, I would think that would hinder your efforts to both build muscle and burn fat, so that's what I'm trying to understand now, but for the purposes of your question, I personally tried to take hgh during my fasting windows, as to maximize fat loss, but if you're bulking or taking it for recovery, I don't know that it matters much. Just my uninformed ramblings and 2 cents.

It's all bro-science. The only study I've seen on GH dosing showed administration in the evening mimicked natural GH secretion better than morning. Unknown if that's better for bodybuilding purposes, but plenty theories. I mean, people still do fasted cardio because they think it burns more fat but turns out it just helps them be more compliant to exercising more overall and eating less by extending the fasting window.

The same amount of cardio at any other time in the day, fasted or fed, burns just as much fat overall. Same might be true for GH.

People will have insulin/lipolysis theories, for sure.

@jumdumpster

 

[jumdumpster]

I think it totally depends on your goals. I've recently started monitoring my fasted blood glucose and compared it when I was not on cycle:
On cycle, 2ius upon going to bed, and 2ius upon waking, blood glucose an hour after getting up around 7am was low 100s. Not terrible, but that was fasted as I would stop eating around 530-6pm.
So heres where my low level knowledge isn't gonna help anyone, but essentially if insulin resistance is worse, and makes you have higher blood glucose levels, I would think that would hinder your efforts to both build muscle and burn fat, so that's what I'm trying to understand now, but for the purposes of your question, I personally tried to take hgh during my fasting windows, as to maximize fat loss, but if you're bulking or taking it for recovery, I don't know that it matters much. Just my uninformed ramblings and 2 cents.

good to know your blood sugar levels didnt change
im not worried about what the effects are of taking it at certain times, just the effect it has on my blood sugar, I dont want to slowly become diabetic by overwhelming my body.
I read a lot of people say take it fasted, then watched a Dave Palumbo video where he say’s take it and eat right after, so honestly Im just gonna keep taking it in the morning

 

[methyl mike]

I cannot find a solid answer anywhere
Do you take HGH fasted and do you wait to eat before/after?

HGH causes the release of FFAs into your bloodstream immediately after you inject it. These FFAs interfere with your body's ability to release insulin. Basically your central nervous system detects when blood sugar rises and signals insulin to be released. FFAs make it so that it can't tell thus if you pin GH and eat soon after you need to pin some insulin otherwise your blood sugar will spike and you'll assume GH is making you diabetic since every ignorant bodybuilder in the world "knows" that GH causes insulin resjstance. Further, the best you could possibly do with GH is pin it fasted and start doing cardio to burn off the FFAs that way you can eat and your body will produce insulin without you having to inject it.

 

[jumdumpster]

HGH causes the release of FFAs into your bloodstream immediately after you inject it. These FFAs interfere with your body's ability to release insulin. Basically your central nervous system detects when blood sugar rises and signals insulin to be released. FFAs make it so that it can't tell thus if you pin GH and eat soon after you need to pin some insulin otherwise your blood sugar will spike and you'll assume GH is making you diabetic since every ignorant bodybuilder in the world "knows" that GH causes insulin resjstance. Further, the best you could possibly do with GH is pin it fasted and start doing cardio to burn off the FFAs that way you can eat and your body will produce insulin without you having to inject it.

How long after pinning it fasted would you say to wait to start eating?

 

[methyl mike]

How long after pinning it fasted would you say to wait to start eating?

I can't give you a definitive answer to that. It depends. If fat loss is the goal the longer the better within reason. Four hours max I would guess. If you're bulking with it you would also pin insulin in which case it doesnt really matter. Chad Nichols wrote a protocol that I follow which has a meal and shot of log approx 1 hour after the GH. It definitely works.