E2 high, test low, a bit confused

[swolleymolley9090]

Ok so I was running 150/700/300 test/tren/mast and I just got my bloods back and I’m extremely confused. Normally when I cruise on 170mg/wk test my e2 was at 62pg/ml and total testosterone was at 970 ng/dl last time I checked and I lowered my cruise dose to 150mg but never checked my bloods on that dose.

When I got my bloods back this time my total test was at 305ng/dl and e2 was at 54pg/ml (ultra sensitive) so I’m kinda baffled at the fact that I lowered my test by 20mg and my total test dropped by over 600 but estrogen barely dropped at all, never mind the fact that I switched sources when I lowered my dose by 20mg and my total test dropped by a fuck ton but estrogen was mostly untouched.

I know tren can show up as estrogen unless you get an ultra sensitive test. So idk if the test got an error on testosterone levels or am I missing something here?

 

[Astro95]

Switched sources huh? Who’s Test are those bloods from so I don’t use them.

 

[mylesnall]

u say estrogen pretty much stayed the same, and only total dropped? im not an endocrinologist and i dont like to jump to conclusions but....

IF, your new gear is bunk... wouldnt your body continue to keep estrogen stable as you metabolize any remaining legit test in your system? meanwhile test slowly drops......
my best guess is that if youre still using that test and your estrogen drops next.... maybe the gear is bunk

edit: can u tell us where this new testosterone is from so we can all start some kinda shitstorm about it?

 

[Astro95]

u say estrogen pretty much stayed the same, and only total dropped? im not an endocrinologist and i dont like to jump to conclusions but....

IF, your new gear is bunk... wouldnt your body continue to keep estrogen stable as you metabolize any remaining legit test in your system? meanwhile test slowly drops......
my best guess is that if youre still using that test and your estrogen drops next.... maybe the gear is bunk

edit: can u tell us where this new testosterone is from so we can all start some kinda shitstorm about it?

Could be under dosed. He’s pinning less Test therefore having a tad less aromatization. That’d make sense seeing his test levels lower and estrogen also lower. E2 @62 with only 170mg of test a week leads me to believe his bf % on the higher end. 54 E2 on under 150mg of test a week assuming it is under dosed is pretty high.

Only other way I see it is if he drew blood for his most recent blood work way past his last pin.

 

[swolleymolley9090]

Could be under dosed. He’s pinning less Test therefore having a tad less aromatization. That’d make sense seeing his test levels lower and estrogen also lower. E2 @62 with only 170mg of test a week leads me to believe his bf % on the higher end. 54 E2 on under 150mg of test a week assuming it is under dosed is pretty high.

Only other way I see it is if he drew blood for his most recent blood work way past his last pin.

My e2 levels get pretty high so I’ve been trying to find a dose where it’s within natural ranges on cruise, I actually finished cutting and I’d say I’m around 12-13%.

I got the blood drawn 3 days from last pin like I usually do so I know for a fact it’s neither of those, so I’ve narrowed it down to either it being underdosed or mislabeled and is actually test P.

And as for my e2, that is why I’m so confused cause a 600 point drop in total testosterone should have had a bigger drop in estrogen I’d imagine.

 

[swolleymolley9090]

Well

u say estrogen pretty much stayed the same, and only total dropped? im not an endocrinologist and i dont like to jump to conclusions but....

IF, your new gear is bunk... wouldnt your body continue to keep estrogen stable as you metabolize any remaining legit test in your system? meanwhile test slowly drops......
my best guess is that if youre still using that test and your estrogen drops next.... maybe the gear is bunk

edit: can u tell us where this new testosterone is from so we can all start some kinda shitstorm about it?

I’ve been using this vial for a while now so I don’t think it’s that, I just immediately went to Azteca’s test after I saw the results and will be checking bloods again in a few weeks.

As for the source, I’m not trying to jump to any conclusions or cause a fuss cause luckily it was a cruise dose and my testosterone isn’t completely tanked but it was biopharma, I’m going to assume that either my blood test had an error or maybe the test e was mislabeled as test p? But i haven’t ruled out it being underdosed. I’ll just cut my losses and just stick to a select few sources that I’ve had good results with.

It was just really weird that with a 600 point drop in total test I only had a 8 point drop in e2 which had me thinking maybe a lab error, either way I’ll be getting bloods again after a few weeks on the same dose to see if anything changes.

 

[mylesnall]

mislabled prop makes sense, im a newb so really i know nothing and im just having fun, im not making any opinions on sources from this thread.

theres likely a logical conclusion who knows

 

[swolleymolley9090]

mislabled prop makes sense, im a newb so really i know nothing and im just having fun, im not making any opinions on sources from this thread.

theres likely a logical conclusion who knows

Yea I’m not gonna make any accusations cause there could be a few different explanations but I’m gonna just play it safe and go with my regulars and see if anything changes. I haven’t heard anybody accuse them of under dosing before so not sure why they’d start now but who knows.