Cycle feedback

[BigDub4]

Looking to start a blast in a few months. Any feedback much appreciated! I’m 6’2 9% BF

20weeks
Test cyp 750mg
Primo 800mg
Equipoise 800mg

Anavar 50mg (6weeks)
Winstrol (50mg) 6 weeks
Arimidex 1mg EOD

The goal is lean hard gains

Let me know any adjustments or feedback

 

[HeftyLefty]

9%… you need to raise that to make gains. 15-18% is good to get huge.

Primo and EQ at 800mg? You’ll need to inject some estrogen lol or run hcg which isn’t bad to do anyways.

But yeah. Not enough test to keep E2 in good range. It’ll be low. Especially with 3.5 arimidex a week. It’ll be crashed with nearly just arimidex…

My recommendation.
Test 750
Primo 800

Or
Test 750
Npp 400 and get your diet right

 

[damocles13]

All of this…just no

 

[BINGBONG]

Although I don’t personally have experience with Primo, I’ve always been told Primo becomes the AI and to keep it at a lower mg then test. Var+Winny is going to wreak havoc on your liver stick with one or the other your already 9% bf.

 

[effswithtren]

For a lot of people EQ lowers E2. I am running that test for myself now but haven’t gotten bloodwork to confirm that for me, but lots have. In other people primo acts as an AI. For me, something around 1.5:1 primo:test keeps my e2 in range. This varies by the individual. Also, despite the rep, primo fucked up my bloodwork fairly well even at 400-600mg. This too seems to vary.

I’d go into this expecting to adjust based on bloodwork. Well actually I personally wouldn’t do this because I think it’s a suboptimal growth cycle. But then again I’d say that about anything that doesn’t have nandrolone.

 

[blutzeig]

That’s enough eq to completely crash your e2

 

[BigDub4]

I forgot to put in 1500 hcg a week

 

[BigDub4]

So reduce the Arimidex weekly?

 

[HeftyLefty]

Drop the arimidex lol. And
Primo and EQ with that amount of test you’ll crash it.
1500iu hcg a week? WHYYYYY that’s 3x the dosage to remain fertile!!!

 

[Prim0r0x]

Not something I would recommend but for sure drop the orals. Totally unnecessary

 

[HeftyLefty]

@Prim0r0x

Wouldn’t recommend what exactly? Curious

 

[system]

Some people will argue 1:1 test to anabolics.
I would say keep the anabolics 60-80% of your test dosing. This should do enough to keep sides at bay.
But then again I come from a place of less is more and get the diet and training right.
You’re going to make your development with food and training. With dosages that high esp for that long you’re going to run into problems.
Get your training, diet, and cardio on compete lock, pick an anabolic, run it under your test and work your ass off for the 20 weeks.
Put your orals at the end if you’re so inclined.

 

[system]

@BINGBONG Agreed. Run the anabolics at max 80% of test.

And at 9%bf which may or may not be accurate, he could stand to let that go a bit. Say12-15% max,to gain max potential. IMO.