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Crashed Gear

scrapiron

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I’m on my third vial of Tren E (all 3 are from different sources, all three have fully crashed at some point). When I heated them up I basically just set the vial in a pan of water, turned the burner on and right before it would start to boil, the oil was clear with no signs of crystals left.

I bring this up mostly because I use a fairly high dose of Tren when I blast, and I am barely ‘feeling it’. I use to get extremely bad mental sides from Tren when I first used it (constantly having imaginary arguments I’d have to snap myself out of) but those are basically non existent anymore, I sleep fine, dreams are fine, I still get night sweats. I’m not even that horny.

My main question is: Did I fuck up my gear and this stuff just isn’t as potent as it was when I first got it? Or have I just ‘adapted’ to Tren (no clue if that’s even a thing).

The gear is all from legit sources, Versace, EP (came from before the shitstorm) and LnL.
 
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Jeffg353

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It’s possible to degrade it from oxidizing it with too much heat. I think it’s melting point is around 90-95°C which is slightly under waters boiling point. Did u notice any color change…getting darker?
 
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scrapiron

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I do not believe it’s darker. So if near boiling is it’s melting point, surely it’s oxidation point is higher. The first few times they crashed I ran them under hot water for 20 mins and still had tiny crystals left. I couldn’t spend 30 minutes injecting so I used the stove.

I have more on the way from Tex so Ill see how much different I feel in a fresh batch I guess. As long as it doesn’t fucking crash lol.
 
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Jeffg353

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I just got some 200 from southerncomp that was crashed. A few minutes on the candle warmer n was good to go. He filled them so much that I almost exploded the one vial.
 
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scrapiron

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Grave" pid='7211' dateline='1523536321:
How can you tell when a concentration has crashed?
Mine had big crystals that precipitated from the solution. Your gear is crystals dissolved in the oil using solvents. If it gets too cold for too long it goes back to its crystalline form.


Jeffg353" pid='7209' dateline='1523536039:
I just got some 200 from southerncomp that was crashed. A few minutes on the candle warmer n was good to go. He filled them so much that I almost exploded the one vial.
I’m reupping his Tren E 300 when hes got it. Honestly tired of dealing with crashed tren so I’m hoping for the best… can’t beat that price.
 
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Jeffg353

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scrapiron__" pid='7231' dateline='1523541978:
Grave" pid='7211' dateline='1523536321:
How can you tell when a concentration has crashed?
Mine had big crystals that precipitated from the solution. Your gear is crystals dissolved in the oil using solvents. If it gets too cold for too long it goes back to its crystalline form.


Jeffg353" pid='7209' dateline='1523536039:
I just got some 200 from southerncomp that was crashed. A few minutes on the candle warmer n was good to go. He filled them so much that I almost exploded the one vial.
I’m reupping his Tren E 300 when hes got it. Honestly tired of dealing with crashed tren so I’m hoping for the best… can’t beat that price.


I always stick the vials on the candle warmer for a few minutes before injecting anyway so a little crashed gear really isn’t a big deal for me. Makes pinning a breeze.
 
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scrapiron

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Jeffg353" pid='7236' dateline='1523543654:
scrapiron__" pid='7231' dateline='1523541978:
Grave" pid='7211' dateline='1523536321:
How can you tell when a concentration has crashed?
Mine had big crystals that precipitated from the solution. Your gear is crystals dissolved in the oil using solvents. If it gets too cold for too long it goes back to its crystalline form.


Jeffg353" pid='7209' dateline='1523536039:
I just got some 200 from southerncomp that was crashed. A few minutes on the candle warmer n was good to go. He filled them so much that I almost exploded the one vial.
I’m reupping his Tren E 300 when hes got it. Honestly tired of dealing with crashed tren so I’m hoping for the best… can’t beat that price.


I always stick the vials on the candle warmer for a few minutes before injecting anyway so a little crashed gear really isn’t a big deal for me. Makes pinning a breeze.


Well I guess I’m going to Target and buying a candle warmer after work.
 
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Jeffg353

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scrapiron__" pid='7246' dateline='1523546611:
Jeffg353" pid='7236' dateline='1523543654:
scrapiron__" pid='7231' dateline='1523541978:
Grave" pid='7211' dateline='1523536321:
How can you tell when a concentration has crashed?
Mine had big crystals that precipitated from the solution. Your gear is crystals dissolved in the oil using solvents. If it gets too cold for too long it goes back to its crystalline form.


Jeffg353" pid='7209' dateline='1523536039:
I just got some 200 from southerncomp that was crashed. A few minutes on the candle warmer n was good to go. He filled them so much that I almost exploded the one vial.
I’m reupping his Tren E 300 when hes got it. Honestly tired of dealing with crashed tren so I’m hoping for the best… can’t beat that price.


I always stick the vials on the candle warmer for a few minutes before injecting anyway so a little crashed gear really isn’t a big deal for me. Makes pinning a breeze.


Well I guess I’m going to Target and buying a candle warmer after work.


Candle warmer or coffee mug warmer pretty much the same. Got mine on Amazon pretty cheap. $7.50
Darice 1199-15 Candle Warmer, Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DHQXX2?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
 
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scrapiron

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CaptainAmerica" pid='7319' dateline='1523562857:
Anyone help out with this? It’s Kong sauce but it’s turned into a gel. If I put it in water it liquifies up but then goes back to this.
My first thought is to store it somewhere warmer if you can, also you might just have to warm it every inject.
 
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Jeffg353

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scrapiron__" pid='7257' dateline='1523550103:
Jeffg353" pid='7253' dateline='1523548867:
Candle warmer or coffee mug warmer pretty much the same. Got mine on Amazon pretty cheap. $7.50
Darice 1199-15 Candle Warmer, Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DHQXX2?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
I was really hoping to see a vial of AAS sitting on the warmer in one of the product pictures.
Lol…I could buy them in bulk n rebrand them as gear warmers.
 
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CaptainAmerica

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scrapiron__" pid='7330' dateline='1523566776:
CaptainAmerica" pid='7319' dateline='1523562857:
Anyone help out with this? It’s Kong sauce but it’s turned into a gel. If I put it in water it liquifies up but then goes back to this.
My first thought is to store it somewhere warmer if you can, also you might just have to warm it every inject.
Probably have to heat it everytime then. It’s already kept in a case at room temp. Thanks!
 
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scrapiron

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SouthernCompounding" pid='7386' dateline='1523588909:
Jeffg353" pid='7209' dateline='1523536039:
I just got some 200 from southerncomp that was crashed. A few minutes on the candle warmer n was good to go. He filled them so much that I almost exploded the one vial.
My bad! LOL


Hobby Lobby has great candle warmers and they’re stupid cheap.

https://www.hobbylobby.com/Home-Dec...mers-Wax-Melts/Original-Candle-Warmer/p/38587


Do the same with your tren e, I won’t complain like jeff
 
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Depending on oil carrier you could certainly buy usp food grade oil, filter it, then use it to cut down the concentration on gear that is crashing easily. Easier with a fresh vial, but even with a “used” vial with unknown exact quantity of oil just eyeballing the remaining amount and adding enough oil to cut concentration by 10% might do the trick. If it doesn’t, take it down another 5-10%. Shake shake shake the vial to disperse/mix new and existing oils well. May be a good habit to shake the vial a bit before drawing as well IF there appears to be any sort of separation.

Strange that such low concentration gear was crashing when Versace’s 300mg/mL seemed to hold well enough that there weren’t more then a couple complaints, and that was just MCT for Tren E/Nand Cyp which are both compounds that like to recrystalize. And he was using just your normal BA/BB no EO/GU.
 
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Jeffg353

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SouthernCompounding" pid='7398' dateline='1523591034:
scrapiron__" pid='7396' dateline='1523590659:
SouthernCompounding" pid='7386' dateline='1523588909:
Jeffg353" pid='7209' dateline='1523536039:
I just got some 200 from southerncomp that was crashed. A few minutes on the candle warmer n was good to go. He filled them so much that I almost exploded the one vial.
My bad! LOL


Hobby Lobby has great candle warmers and they’re stupid cheap.

https://www.hobbylobby.com/Home-Dec...mers-Wax-Melts/Original-Candle-Warmer/p/38587


Do the same with your tren e, I won’t complain like jeff


Jeff is such a complainer that guy.

Also, Life Tip - TONS of hot MILFs at your local Hobby Lobby.


I know right what a dickhead.
 
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