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I have a question. Does anyone remember when he temporarily raised the minimum to like $500 a few weeks ago (maybe it was a month ago, can’t recall)? Isn’t that a bit odd now, in hindsight?
in my experience (wont get into it, but lets just say ive had... 'run-ins' before), the IP thing doesn'tEDIT** Oh and do NOT keep tracking these packages, especially from your own IP address......
he did this in July also. around the 4th. it was back to normal after the weekend. I think he just did that to slow down the flow of orders while he shipped his outI have a question. Does anyone remember when he temporarily raised the minimum to like $500 a few weeks ago (maybe it was a month ago, can’t recall)? Isn’t that a bit odd now, in hindsight?
i believe P.O. Boxes are still tired to your name in some form or fashion?For the people who ordered before this happened say beginning of June, should we be worried about anything like changing addresses or getting a PO box for further orders from other sources?
I didn’t see this question asked when scrolling through the thread. If it was sorry to make anyone answer it again.
Yeah your right, from the looks of it something weird that definitely involves him getting spooked out. I doubt the people who ordered before all this need to worry but still a question I assumed should be asked. Probably best to order from a different source who isn’t tied to CL at all, syn tejas azteca viper. There’s a whole bunch. Still a little scaryi believe P.O. Boxes are still tired to your name in some form or fashion?
Hard to say if we should be worried or not since we don’t know what has happened since he went dark. Was this a sting/investigation? Was he just spooked? Who knows.
Lots of unknowns unfortunately.
It is a little scary. Makes ya think twice about ordering again or doing anything like this again. Hopefully we can get Ah update soon.Yeah your right, from the looks of it something weird that definitely involves him getting spooked out. I doubt the people who ordered before all this need to worry but still a question I assumed should be asked. Probably best to order from a different source who isn’t tied to CL at all, syn tejas azteca viper. There’s a whole bunch. Still a little scary
I would not stress too much over it. If it was truly an operation they just want the distributor. Us pawns don’t provide them anything.Ok so I know this has already been asked, but, should those of us who have missing packages out there actually be worried about potential legal trouble? They have my real name and my address, but why would they waste their time seeking out these small time buyers? I’ve spent about 100/150 a month the past few months. What do they gain? I don’t have the package in my possession so how would they even charge me or prove I ordered it? And these would have to be federal charges, correct? Because I live in a state where you’re free to walk around with Meth or Heroin if you choose. Be a damn shame if they actual sought out any action for buying fucking hormones. I digress…
Ok so I know this has already been asked, but, should those of us who have missing packages out there actually be worried about potential legal trouble? They have my real name and my address, but why would they waste their time seeking out these small time buyers? I’ve spent about 100/150 a month the past few months. What do they gain? I don’t have the package in my possession so how would they even charge me or prove I ordered it? And these would have to be federal charges, correct? Because I live in a state where you’re free to walk around with Meth or Heroin if you choose. Be a damn shame if they actual sought out any action for buying fucking hormones. I digress…
Doesn't what?in my experience (wont get into it, but lets just say ive had... 'run-ins' before), the IP thing doesn't
he did this in July also. around the 4th. it was back to normal after the weekend. I think he just did that to slow down the flow of orders while he shipped his out
Yeah dude if email is no longer working and site is shut down Money and he probably got raided by the feds on like August 27 he stopped all sales because he had to stock up I bet you that's when something happened..sucks cause Is a great person to do business with very responsive I never had a problem with himTried to email CL couple minutes ago……messages wouldn’t send as the email doesn’t exist. Hope all is well. Seems that I lost some money
Do you know when he stopped taking packages to USPS?
I dont think there is any client list mate . we really dont save any personal info . emails are deleted after an order ships and no records are kept . CL had an exit plan . The minute he want dark rest assured his hard drive was wiped and anything else incriminating was smoked within minutes. I dont think this is about him directly. If anything it would be his shipper that would have to worry in a position like that. If you were one of the people who lost a pack I wouldn't worry . Be on point and prepared just in case . I would lay low for a while. If your going to order use a different addressCan anyone speak to how safe his client list is?
EDIT** Oh and do NOT keep tracking these packages, especially from your own IP address......This isn't entirely factual. International "love letters" come from customs. Domestic "love letters" come from USPIS(US Postal Inspection Service), and very likely people will start getting them in regards to these packages.
1. They need probable cause to open packages, which will be easy to get, in this situation.
2. Even without probable cause, they send letters that basically say "we have a package with your address on it and we believe it contains something non mailable/controlled substance etc" They basically give you 21 days to claim it/appeal it, and if not it will be considered "abandoned mail" and handled via their protocol. Obviously do not do this lol
EDIT** Oh and do NOT keep tracking these packages, especially from your own IP address......
Thank you mate . Of course I will def keep you in the loop if I hear anything else , Although Im thinking thats probably the last we will hear from CL . If something did happen , which it def looks that way, I would want as much distance as possibleHey @Pharmahgh I just wanted to say that you are one of the most stand up sources here besides Colonial and although ive only ever made one or two orders from you I can tell that you truly care about the members and forum in general. Keep us updated if you gain any new insight on CL
Edit: Just read the update on Colonial, God Bless! Hope hes ok.
Good point .We are offering a big discount to any of the guys who did loose a package . However that being said, you will need to prove you placed the order somehow, just in case any of the oppertunist want to try . And they will try.Have you tried having better bloods? If your levels don't read "Dallas", no credit.
If your bloods are better than Capts, no credit (It's true, but pillow talk is inadmissible so he'll deny it.)
If anyone is waiting for a pack your best bet IMO is to keep all the proof of order info and payment and either plead for mercy from one of the above sources that said they might lend a hand or wait and see if CL comes back to make you right. Other than that, it's the name of the game and I'd just be happy you're only out the cash. All about perspective sometimes.
I ordered from CL when the min was raised to $500 and actually spent well over that amount and all my product showed up on time. It was not a exit scam.I have a question. Does anyone remember when he temporarily raised the minimum to like $500 a few weeks ago (maybe it was a month ago, can’t recall)? Isn’t that a bit odd now, in hindsight?