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[d1444]

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[DHT]

the EQ is a waste, the dosage is too low to grow muscle. Also may cause problems with regulating estrogen as the EQ saturates it will lower your e2. Your protein is too low and probably your calories, cardio is a waste and it seems you don’t know if you want to get bigger or smaller. Also cardio is not the way to get leaner. I don’t know why you are cutting or using a harsh and unpopular drug like winstrol.

basically you should be using steroids to get bigger, youre trying to cut when you dont have any muscle which is a waste
the EQ is literally a waste. The cardio is a waste. Your diet is trash

 

[d1444]

So, you wanted to be a dick.

harsh and unpopular drug like winstrol.

LOL

I don’t know why you are cutting

LOL

Cardio is not the way to get leaner

NAIL IN THE COFFIN. Fuck off

it seems you don’t know if you want to get bigger or smaller

If you wanted to give some legitimate advice you could have asked, not that you have any. If you need somewhere to vent go to the gym

 

[Macaronitime]

@d1444 Why ask for advice then get mad you aren’t told what you wanna hear? You either need to eat more to gain weight, or eat less to lose it. You don’t seem to have your mind made up. And that eq dose is too low to make any significant difference.

 

[d1444]

@DHT said in I'm seeing almost no changes on this cycle! Despite being very successful previously:

Why are you taking an AI for 250mg test a week, especially if you administer it intermittently? That’s not enough to warrant it. Also how the fuck did you go for 2/3rds of last year without lifting at all

 

[d1444]

@Macaronitime said in I'm seeing almost no changes on this cycle! Despite being very successful previously:

@d1444 Why ask for advice then get mad you aren’t told what you wanna hear? You either need to eat more to gain weight, or eat less to lose it. You don’t seem to have your mind made up. And that eq dose is too low to make any significant difference.

That wasn’t advice lol and I’m not mad that “it’s not what I want to hear”. Come on. Cardio is not the way to get leaner and Winstrol is unpopular and harsh? He could have said “why are you doing so much cardio” or “what is your goal” but he decided to be a dickhead. “Your diet is trash” is not the same as “you’re not getting enough protein”. See what I’m saying?

But yeah, I’m well aware of EQ and e2, I’m well aware it’s a mild compound but I didn’t know 300mg was insignificant because I had decent results with it before. I want some feedback on how limiting my diet is , but I don’t want an idiot yelling at me.

Edit: Sorry I got irritated.

 

[EpicFlash]

Your diet is definitely limiting your growth. Between the extremely low protein and the heavy cardio load, your body is likely actually storing too much fat thinking it doesn’t know when it is going to get adequate energy again but it knows every day it is going to get pounded from training and cardio…I made the exact same mistake when I switched to the dark side. Not enough protein and too much cardio ended up getting almost skinny fat. Your physique was fine in the before photos…but to get bigger and leaner at the same time on that mild of a cycle with that diet and cardio is IMO not very likely. My suggestion given how lean you were before, is to add calories and definitely add at least another 100 grams of protein a day… and give your body a chance to grow.

 

[Macaronitime]

@d1444 I think you’re doing too much cardio, no need for that much unless you’re a few weeks out from a show. Stick to 15-30 minutes of liss cardio a few times a week just to stay healthy. Your protein is low, but I’ve always felt that most people eat too much protein because they think that’s the only way to build muscle, if you aren’t gonna eat more protein, at least eat more carbs as they will help you gain. I would track your macros using myfitnesspal if you really wanna be accurate.

 

[d1444]

@Macaronitime said in I'm seeing almost no changes on this cycle! Despite being very successful previously:

track your macros using myfitnesspal if you really wanna be accurate.

Thanks for this and the rest of the advice!

@EpicFlash said in I'm seeing almost no changes on this cycle! Despite being very successful previously:

to get bigger and leaner at the same time on that mild of a cycle with that diet and cardio is IMO not very likely. My suggestion given how lean you were before, is to add calories and definitely add at least another 100 grams of protein a day… and give your body a chance to grow.

It’s been possible for me to get leaner and bigger at the same time before, but on stronger cycles. The problem is… I am hooked on cardio. It feels amazing and helps me shake off anxiety. I would hate to cut back, but if I have to I will. I really really like doing cardio. And yeah it’s odd to me that I’m looking skinny fat despite so much lifting+cardio.

You think around 200g protein a day is good? So 100g is seriously too little? Wow

 

[EpicFlash]

@d1444
Ya bro… I feel ur pain… I have definitely been there before…was tough for me to cut back on cardio. But with that amount of cardio, I was actually “slowing” my metabolism down as my body tried to conserve energy. Especially the leaner I got… which is why I said you may look even leaner in those early pics… even if you want to do all the cardio or do not want to cut back too dramatically, add 100 grams of protein will add 400 calories to whatever your diet is now. That will in essence “cover” some of the calories being expended now and allow your body to utilize your protein for muscle building instead of for energy…

 

[effswithtren]

Diet is “ok”
90 minutes of cardio every day
Eats around 100g of protein a day
250 test, 300 eq, 50 winstrol
Asks for advice, shoots down all advice given

I can’t imagine why you’re not throwing on heaps of muscle.

 

[d1444]

@effswithtren said in I'm seeing almost no changes on this cycle! Despite being very successful previously:

Asks for advice, shoots down all advice given

Mom drop you on your head? or are you just pretending to be a retard?

God I hate to think of the poor guy takes the piss-poor “advice” from you and DHT

 

[combover]

@d1444 bro, their piss poor advice is spot on, even if you don’t like their tone.
do you get bloodwork to see what 250mg of test puts you at? That’s not a very high dose either. 100mg puts me at 450, which is middle of normal range.

You’re on 600mg a week of drugs, and 300eq isn’t doing anything. You’d be better off at 500mg of test and monitoring your E.
Reduce cardio, add 100g protein a day (drink a gallon of fairlife), increase test and get big.

Maybe you can find a way to shed your stress and anxiety through lifting. Good luck!

 

[d1444]

@combover said in I'm seeing almost no changes on this cycle! Despite being very successful previously:

@d1444 bro, their piss poor advice is spot on, even if you don’t like their tone.
do you get bloodwork to see what 250mg of test puts you at? That’s not a very high dose either. 100mg puts me at 450, which is middle of normal range.

You’re on 600mg a week of drugs, and 300eq isn’t doing anything. You’d be better off at 500mg of test and monitoring your E.
Reduce cardio, add 100g protein a day (drink a gallon of fairlife), increase test and get big.

Maybe you can find a way to shed your stress and anxiety through lifting. Good luck!

Dude . Thank you ! Is it so crazy to ask for people not to be dicks?

1. Question about something you brought up: Most of the knowledgeable youtube sources I’ve watched have said there is no need for more than 250mg. It’s mostly the online forums and BB boards that call for 500mg Test. I also see people like Greg Doucette and MorePlateeMoreDates explain you don’t need more than 250 to achieve freakish results (provided diet and gear are proper). And it makes sense to me. But I see these conflicting opinions elsewhere.

What do you think about that?

1. I will switch out the EQ in the future, but I don’t know what other injectable to try - I don’t react well to Deca, and not a fan of the water? weight that sheds quickly after the cycle is done.

I am getting bloodwork Monday. PS Milk gives me the shits so I have to use pasteurized egg whites lol

But yeah holy fuck I would have never guessed 100g protein is extremely low for me (160lb). It’s kind of hard to eat that much for me, and pasteurized egg whites are not that cheap (but not too bad). I’ll take the hit and buy one every day I guess. It’s +$40 a month .

 

[combover]

@d1444 first off, check out Mast, 300mg mast would be better than 300mg eq imo.

how old are you, you trt or pct?
as far as how much test to take, that comes down to how much you you get from 250mg. I wouldn’t expect much growth, maybe the first time, sure. But I don’t think you’ll consistently grow on that much. The high end of natty test levels is ~1000, 500mg usually gets me and see a lot of others, around 2500. So if 250mg gets you to around 1200-1400, that’s not some crazy high test level…

 

[jef9786]

@d1444 why are you being such a douchebag bro, people are literally giving you answers because this is basic fucking lifting 101. You’re eating less than a gram of protein per lb of bw. LMAO how do you expect to “grow lean” on that?!? I normally don’t post stuff like this but quit bitching and do your research. This is a big boys game not some shit that someone needs to hold your hand through. IF you don’t know what you’re doing stay away from juice. PERIOD.

 

[DHT]

You are legit a retarded little baby. You want me to spoonfed you advice and you think that saying you’re doing something wrong is uncalled for? You’re literally calling for it, asking strangers on the internet for advice. You are so sheltered and naive me saying you’re doing something wrong hurts your feelings. You can’t even handle me saying winstrol is a harsh and unpopular drug. You take that personally like I insulted your mother. Youre so insecure that you can’t even admit you did something wrong related to a topic you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. You have mental problems and you need a reality check. Your insecure ass is literally the last kind of guy that should use steroids.

 

[DHT]

Like Im supposed to say "well maybe buddy you should use more protein , I can’t say it with too much certainty because if I did, it would hurt your feelings to imply I am more knowledgeable than you. The only way roids will get you to be sexually desirable is if you run tren and end up in jail.

 

[jef9786]

@DHT what he’s not understanding is he can’t do the same thing (diet / training) as his first cycle and expect to get the same gains. Lol. way too impatient. 2nd cycle 100g protein idk what you really expect to see as fair as mass or changes? lol

 

[jef9786]

I’m not here trying to be a dick either, for anyone who see’s this. But c’mon you’re playing a grown mans game. If you’re going to cross over and play this game, it means you should be MORE on point with everything. Gain as much knowledge as possible, play with combinations and diet/training regimens. And most importantly be patient. Drugs are not magic, they are enhancers.