Can't Sleep, Help!

[Deucalion]

I am on 500mg test c up from ~375mg I had to double my arimidex to 0.5mg daily due to pimples on my neck, water retention, etc. I was having trouble with sleep at 375 mg but now I am getting 5-6 hours of un-restful sleep. I have taken apigenin which sedated me when I was not on test and made me sleep for 10 hours I didn't remember falling asleep or waking up that is how much it put me out, I was so sedated my HR was in the 30's too...

Fast forward to 500mg test I doubled the dose of apigenin to 50 mg and added melatonin 1mg~ and the sleep was still restless somehow and I just hit 8 hours, but it felt awful.

I am going to try to back off the arimidex to 0.25mg tonight but even on 0.5mg I have been getting pimples. I plan on getting my bloods done again in about a week or two.

Does anyone have any suggestions on the arimidex or my sleep or if they are related? I tried to look it up and came up with no good answers so I figured I would come straight to the source...

 

[Ihavenoideawhatdoing]

I got nothing for you but depending on your life style / job just stay up. Clean around the house go for a walk before bed. I would also not be taking sleeping pills if you are not sure what’s keeping you up.

 

[Deucalion]

I got nothing for you but depending on your life style / job just stay up. Clean around the house go for a walk before bed. I would also not be taking sleeping pills if you are not sure what’s keeping you up.

Haha I appreciate the honesty here. I went about 5-6 days with nothing to help sleep and I about died. It was awful took hours to get to sleep and when I did I would wake up nearly every hour, and according to my watch my sleep lacked REM and Deep sleep compared to with sleep medication. I now take something about every other day. I backed off the arimidex and my sleep stayed about the same but now I have a couple new patches of acne on my neck and back.

I also feel very fatigued during the day but when it comes to my bedtime I have trouble. I wonder if it may have to do with my cortisol or something crazy, it feels like anxiety is keeping me up but I do not have anything that should really be making me feel that way.

 

[Luxferro]

Happens all the time to every single guy who’s ever done any cycle.

Why do you think IFBB pro’s take tons of Benzo’s, anxiolytics, smoke weed, etc?

You have too many androgens in your system dude. You need to view test the same way you view caffeine. It’s a CNS stimulant. However, unlike that cup of joe in the morning that mostly wears off by bedtime, the test is in your body 24/7 at more or less constantly elevated levels.

Do you think your brain was designed with the intention of having Supra-physiological levels of androgens hanging around 24/7? Hell no. In fact, forget the brain. Nearly every organ system in your body can’t stand it. That’s why most guys won’t extend their cycles past 16-20 weeks at most and then cruise for AT LEAST as long.

If you can’t sleep, you can’t think or train properly or manage your diet well. I’d recommend adhering to your old AI protocol I sincerely doubt this is E2 related and the presence of pimples and water retention seems to warrant its use. I’d skip an injection or two and see if you feel better.

 

[jumdumpster]

like the other guy said this is almost 100% just because youre on gear
it can make going to sleep hard, but i find it mainly makes staying asleep hard
on something like tren i go the entire cycle waking up 5x a night and feeling like the sleep i did get was horrible

 

[PrimeYash]

I am on 500mg test c up from ~375mg I had to double my arimidex to 0.5mg daily due to pimples on my neck, water retention, etc. I was having trouble with sleep at 375 mg but now I am getting 5-6 hours of un-restful sleep. I have taken apigenin which sedated me when I was not on test and made me sleep for 10 hours I didn't remember falling asleep or waking up that is how much it put me out, I was so sedated my HR was in the 30's too...

Fast forward to 500mg test I doubled the dose of apigenin to 50 mg and added melatonin 1mg~ and the sleep was still restless somehow and I just hit 8 hours, but it felt awful.

I am going to try to back off the arimidex to 0.25mg tonight but even on 0.5mg I have been getting pimples. I plan on getting my bloods done again in about a week or two.

Does anyone have any suggestions on the arimidex or my sleep or if they are related? I tried to look it up and came up with no good answers so I figured I would come straight to the source...

I've never had sleep issues from anything other than Tren.
Magnesium Chews and thc before bed help me.

 

[Deucalion]

Happens all the time to every single guy who’s ever done any cycle.

Why do you think IFBB pro’s take tons of Benzo’s, anxiolytics, smoke weed, etc?

You have too many androgens in your system dude. You need to view test the same way you view caffeine. It’s a CNS stimulant. However, unlike that cup of joe in the morning that mostly wears off by bedtime, the test is in your body 24/7 at more or less constantly elevated levels.

Do you think your brain was designed with the intention of having Supra-physiological levels of androgens hanging around 24/7? Hell no. In fact, forget the brain. Nearly every organ system in your body can’t stand it. That’s why most guys won’t extend their cycles past 16-20 weeks at most and then cruise for AT LEAST as long.

If you can’t sleep, you can’t think or train properly or manage your diet well. I’d recommend adhering to your old AI protocol I sincerely doubt this is E2 related and the presence of pimples and water retention seems to warrant its use. I’d skip an injection or two and see if you feel better.

Thanks for that response man I appreciate the time you put into it. I just didn't know if there were any secrets you all have to combat this. I will stick to my low dose melatonin every other day to keep my sanity haha!