Bloods on TRT after cycle; What to expect

[WalnutBlast]

Hey there guys, I am planning on running my first cycle. I am planning to place an order of test e from PHARMAHGH and run 500mg EW for 10 or 12 weeks. I am pretty excited, but I would like to be safe with it. I am scheduling bloodwork with my endocrinologist about a month after my cycle will be fully over. What should I expect in my bloodwork?

I would like for my bloods to come back normal (as if I had not cycled). I plan to go two weeks after my last 500mg dosage with no pinning, then start back up with my 100mg EW TRT dose the following two weeks before my bloods. Steroid calc said my levels should be normal by then, but I wanted some opinions. Will anything else in my blood panel be effected at that time?

Thanks so much for your help with a noobie.

Take care,
WalnutBlast

 

[Colonial Labs]

Very unlikely anything bad will show up in bloodwork 4 weeks after just a 500mg test-E cycle. I wouldn’t be worried. Your protocol seems fine.

 

[WalnutBlast]

Colonial Labs" pid='79917' dateline='1579809189:

Very unlikely anything bad will show up in bloodwork 4 weeks after just a 500mg test-E cycle. I wouldn’t be worried. Your protocol seems fine.

Really appreciate the response!
Stocking up on my Luer Lock Syringes and 21g and 25g needles. Would you recommend an AI as well?

 

[Colonial Labs]

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Colonial Labs" pid='79917' dateline='1579809189:

Very unlikely anything bad will show up in bloodwork 4 weeks after just a 500mg test-E cycle. I wouldn’t be worried. Your protocol seems fine.

Really appreciate the response!
Stocking up on my Luer Lock Syringes and 21g and 25g needles. Would you recommend an AI as well?

Yea, you’ll definitely need AI for that cycle. Personally, I use aromasin, but you can go with aromasin or arimidex. Both are good, aromasin you have to take more often because of its half life. Arimidex you won’t have to take daily. Maybe 0.25mg every other day for your cycle.

 

[2scoopzftw]

Colonial Labs" pid='79921' dateline='1579811570:

WalnutBlast" pid='79920' dateline='1579810365:

Colonial Labs" pid='79917' dateline='1579809189:

Very unlikely anything bad will show up in bloodwork 4 weeks after just a 500mg test-E cycle. I wouldn’t be worried. Your protocol seems fine.

Really appreciate the response!
Stocking up on my Luer Lock Syringes and 21g and 25g needles. Would you recommend an AI as well?

Yea, you’ll definitely need AI for that cycle. Personally, I use aromasin, but you can go with aromasin or arimidex. Both are good, aromasin you have to take more often because of its half life. Arimidex you won’t have to take daily. Maybe 0.25mg every other day for your cycle.

Hey @“Colonial Labs” - couple questions here. I am going to be running the same cycle as @“WalnutBlast” in a few weeks.

Is there a best time to take Aromasin like after injecting, before bed, etc?
Do you think taking Aromasin with 5g of fish oil is safe enough from a fat soluble perspective?

I originally planned on using Adex but I got too scared hearing about the rebound that can happen so I picked up some Asin instead.

I have both on hand, but only plan on using if I need to.

Figured if I post this here, we can both benefit from the advice lol.

Thanks!

 

[Colonial Labs]

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Colonial Labs" pid='79921' dateline='1579811570:

WalnutBlast" pid='79920' dateline='1579810365:

Colonial Labs" pid='79917' dateline='1579809189:

Very unlikely anything bad will show up in bloodwork 4 weeks after just a 500mg test-E cycle. I wouldn’t be worried. Your protocol seems fine.

Really appreciate the response!
Stocking up on my Luer Lock Syringes and 21g and 25g needles. Would you recommend an AI as well?

Yea, you’ll definitely need AI for that cycle. Personally, I use aromasin, but you can go with aromasin or arimidex. Both are good, aromasin you have to take more often because of its half life. Arimidex you won’t have to take daily. Maybe 0.25mg every other day for your cycle.

Hey @“Colonial Labs” - couple questions here. I am going to be running the same cycle as @“WalnutBlast” in a few weeks.

Is there a best time to take Aromasin like after injecting, before bed, etc?
Do you think taking Aromasin with 5g of fish oil is safe enough from a fat soluble perspective?

I originally planned on using Adex but I got too scared hearing about the rebound that can happen so I picked up some Asin instead.

I have both on hand, but only plan on using if I need to.

Figured if I post this here, we can both benefit from the advice lol.

Thanks!

Good questions. Aromasin has a short half life. For most, taking it once a day (around midday) seems to work fine. Doesn’t really matter if it’s post or pre injection. I, personally, actually split my daily dose into two doses for the day. Once in the morning about an hour after waking, and the next one around 9 hours later. (I’m on more gear than you plan to run so maybe this won’t provide as much benefit on your cycle and won’t be worth the extra hassle). This keeps me feeling perfect for the whole day. I’m not saying you have to do this, it’s extra hassle but if you don’t mind, I think it is superior to taking it once a day. (9 hour half life in males)

Taking it with 5g fish oils should be sufficient. I, personally, take mine with peanut butter or a meal.

That’s one of the reasons I choose asin over adex also. I hate that rebound you get if you stop adex. I can literally feel my estro spike. Also, I’ve had a hard time nailing arimidex dosage. My estro seems to be either a little too low or high everytime I’ve tried switching to arimidex.

 

[WalnutBlast]

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Colonial Labs" pid='79921' dateline='1579811570:

WalnutBlast" pid='79920' dateline='1579810365:

Colonial Labs" pid='79917' dateline='1579809189:

Very unlikely anything bad will show up in bloodwork 4 weeks after just a 500mg test-E cycle. I wouldn’t be worried. Your protocol seems fine.

Really appreciate the response!
Stocking up on my Luer Lock Syringes and 21g and 25g needles. Would you recommend an AI as well?

Yea, you’ll definitely need AI for that cycle. Personally, I use aromasin, but you can go with aromasin or arimidex. Both are good, aromasin you have to take more often because of its half life. Arimidex you won’t have to take daily. Maybe 0.25mg every other day for your cycle.

Hey @“Colonial Labs” - couple questions here. I am going to be running the same cycle as @“WalnutBlast” in a few weeks.

Is there a best time to take Aromasin like after injecting, before bed, etc?
Do you think taking Aromasin with 5g of fish oil is safe enough from a fat soluble perspective?

I originally planned on using Adex but I got too scared hearing about the rebound that can happen so I picked up some Asin instead.

I have both on hand, but only plan on using if I need to.

Figured if I post this here, we can both benefit from the advice lol.

Thanks!

What source are you planning to use?

 

[2scoopzftw]

Colonial Labs" pid='79933' dateline='1579822041:

MPS721" pid='79932' dateline='1579821676:

Colonial Labs" pid='79921' dateline='1579811570:

WalnutBlast" pid='79920' dateline='1579810365:

Colonial Labs" pid='79917' dateline='1579809189:

Very unlikely anything bad will show up in bloodwork 4 weeks after just a 500mg test-E cycle. I wouldn’t be worried. Your protocol seems fine.

Really appreciate the response!
Stocking up on my Luer Lock Syringes and 21g and 25g needles. Would you recommend an AI as well?

Yea, you’ll definitely need AI for that cycle. Personally, I use aromasin, but you can go with aromasin or arimidex. Both are good, aromasin you have to take more often because of its half life. Arimidex you won’t have to take daily. Maybe 0.25mg every other day for your cycle.

Hey @“Colonial Labs” - couple questions here. I am going to be running the same cycle as @“WalnutBlast” in a few weeks.

Is there a best time to take Aromasin like after injecting, before bed, etc?
Do you think taking Aromasin with 5g of fish oil is safe enough from a fat soluble perspective?

I originally planned on using Adex but I got too scared hearing about the rebound that can happen so I picked up some Asin instead.

I have both on hand, but only plan on using if I need to.

Figured if I post this here, we can both benefit from the advice lol.

Thanks!

Good questions. Aromasin has a short half life. For most, taking it once a day (around midday) seems to work fine. Doesn’t really matter if it’s post or pre injection. I, personally, actually split my daily dose into two doses for the day. Once in the morning about an hour after waking, and the next one around 9 hours later. (I’m on more gear than you plan to run so maybe this won’t provide as much benefit on your cycle and won’t be worth the extra hassle). This keeps me feeling perfect for the whole day. I’m not saying you have to do this, it’s extra hassle but if you don’t mind, I think it is superior to taking it once a day. (9 hour half life in males)

Taking it with 5g fish oils should be sufficient. I, personally, take mine with peanut butter or a meal.

That’s one of the reasons I choose asin over adex also. I hate that rebound you get if you stop adex. I can literally feel my estro spike. Also, I’ve had a hard time nailing arimidex dosage. My estro seems to be either a little too low or high everytime I’ve tried switching to arimidex.

Thanks for the response @“Colonial Labs” ! Ive heard Asin is more prone to losing hair, is this true?

Also do you think its best to just start BnC instead of doing a PCT after my first cycle? Im 27 btw and I can see the logic for both. I mean, if you are just going to lose everything after you come off on PCT then whats the point, right?

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WalnutBlast" pid='79934' dateline='1579822078:

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Colonial Labs" pid='79921' dateline='1579811570:

WalnutBlast" pid='79920' dateline='1579810365:

Colonial Labs" pid='79917' dateline='1579809189:

Very unlikely anything bad will show up in bloodwork 4 weeks after just a 500mg test-E cycle. I wouldn’t be worried. Your protocol seems fine.

Really appreciate the response!
Stocking up on my Luer Lock Syringes and 21g and 25g needles. Would you recommend an AI as well?

Yea, you’ll definitely need AI for that cycle. Personally, I use aromasin, but you can go with aromasin or arimidex. Both are good, aromasin you have to take more often because of its half life. Arimidex you won’t have to take daily. Maybe 0.25mg every other day for your cycle.

Hey @“Colonial Labs” - couple questions here. I am going to be running the same cycle as @“WalnutBlast” in a few weeks.

Is there a best time to take Aromasin like after injecting, before bed, etc?
Do you think taking Aromasin with 5g of fish oil is safe enough from a fat soluble perspective?

I originally planned on using Adex but I got too scared hearing about the rebound that can happen so I picked up some Asin instead.

I have both on hand, but only plan on using if I need to.

Figured if I post this here, we can both benefit from the advice lol.

Thanks!

What source are you planning to use?

LOL thats something you gotta figure out bro. There is plenty of info here.

I will say though, if a source is commenting on your post and giving you sounds advice, then maybe thats an indication of how they handle business. Do your research but just putting that out there…

 

[Colonial Labs]

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Colonial Labs" pid='79933' dateline='1579822041:

MPS721" pid='79932' dateline='1579821676:

Colonial Labs" pid='79921' dateline='1579811570:

WalnutBlast" pid='79920' dateline='1579810365:

Really appreciate the response!
Stocking up on my Luer Lock Syringes and 21g and 25g needles. Would you recommend an AI as well?

Yea, you’ll definitely need AI for that cycle. Personally, I use aromasin, but you can go with aromasin or arimidex. Both are good, aromasin you have to take more often because of its half life. Arimidex you won’t have to take daily. Maybe 0.25mg every other day for your cycle.

Hey @“Colonial Labs” - couple questions here. I am going to be running the same cycle as @“WalnutBlast” in a few weeks.

Is there a best time to take Aromasin like after injecting, before bed, etc?
Do you think taking Aromasin with 5g of fish oil is safe enough from a fat soluble perspective?

I originally planned on using Adex but I got too scared hearing about the rebound that can happen so I picked up some Asin instead.

I have both on hand, but only plan on using if I need to.

Figured if I post this here, we can both benefit from the advice lol.

Thanks!

Good questions. Aromasin has a short half life. For most, taking it once a day (around midday) seems to work fine. Doesn’t really matter if it’s post or pre injection. I, personally, actually split my daily dose into two doses for the day. Once in the morning about an hour after waking, and the next one around 9 hours later. (I’m on more gear than you plan to run so maybe this won’t provide as much benefit on your cycle and won’t be worth the extra hassle). This keeps me feeling perfect for the whole day. I’m not saying you have to do this, it’s extra hassle but if you don’t mind, I think it is superior to taking it once a day. (9 hour half life in males)

Taking it with 5g fish oils should be sufficient. I, personally, take mine with peanut butter or a meal.

That’s one of the reasons I choose asin over adex also. I hate that rebound you get if you stop adex. I can literally feel my estro spike. Also, I’ve had a hard time nailing arimidex dosage. My estro seems to be either a little too low or high everytime I’ve tried switching to arimidex.

Thanks for the response @“Colonial Labs” ! Ive heard Asin is more prone to losing hair, is this true?

Also do you think its best to just start BnC instead of doing a PCT after my first cycle? Im 27 btw and I can see the logic for both. I mean, if you are just going to lose everything after you come off on PCT then whats the point, right?

The hair loss thing with aromasin is more common in women than men. Never had any issues at all. If you’re prone to baldness or start seeing your hair thinning while on steroids, I’d start taking finasteride 1mg/day. Reverses hair loss in like 90% of users.

And yep, I think PCTing is a waste of time unless you plan to come off forever due to some reason. BnC is the way to go IMO. And yes, you can still have kids after being on for years. There are ways to jack up your sperm count quick even after taking steroids for several years nonstop.

 

[2scoopzftw]

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Colonial Labs" pid='79933' dateline='1579822041:

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Colonial Labs" pid='79921' dateline='1579811570:

Yea, you’ll definitely need AI for that cycle. Personally, I use aromasin, but you can go with aromasin or arimidex. Both are good, aromasin you have to take more often because of its half life. Arimidex you won’t have to take daily. Maybe 0.25mg every other day for your cycle.

Hey @“Colonial Labs” - couple questions here. I am going to be running the same cycle as @“WalnutBlast” in a few weeks.

Is there a best time to take Aromasin like after injecting, before bed, etc?
Do you think taking Aromasin with 5g of fish oil is safe enough from a fat soluble perspective?

I originally planned on using Adex but I got too scared hearing about the rebound that can happen so I picked up some Asin instead.

I have both on hand, but only plan on using if I need to.

Figured if I post this here, we can both benefit from the advice lol.

Thanks!

Good questions. Aromasin has a short half life. For most, taking it once a day (around midday) seems to work fine. Doesn’t really matter if it’s post or pre injection. I, personally, actually split my daily dose into two doses for the day. Once in the morning about an hour after waking, and the next one around 9 hours later. (I’m on more gear than you plan to run so maybe this won’t provide as much benefit on your cycle and won’t be worth the extra hassle). This keeps me feeling perfect for the whole day. I’m not saying you have to do this, it’s extra hassle but if you don’t mind, I think it is superior to taking it once a day. (9 hour half life in males)

Taking it with 5g fish oils should be sufficient. I, personally, take mine with peanut butter or a meal.

That’s one of the reasons I choose asin over adex also. I hate that rebound you get if you stop adex. I can literally feel my estro spike. Also, I’ve had a hard time nailing arimidex dosage. My estro seems to be either a little too low or high everytime I’ve tried switching to arimidex.

Thanks for the response @“Colonial Labs” ! Ive heard Asin is more prone to losing hair, is this true?

Also do you think its best to just start BnC instead of doing a PCT after my first cycle? Im 27 btw and I can see the logic for both. I mean, if you are just going to lose everything after you come off on PCT then whats the point, right?

The hair loss thing with aromasin is more common in women than men. Never had any issues at all. If you’re prone to baldness or start seeing your hair thinning while on steroids, I’d start taking finasteride 1mg/day. Reverses hair loss in like 90% of users.

And yep, I think PCTing is a waste of time unless you plan to come off forever due to some reason. BnC is the way to go IMO. And yes, you can still have kids after being on for years. There are ways to jack up your sperm count quick even after taking steroids for several years nonstop.

for a first time user, any recommmendations on transitioning from a blast to a cruise?

 

[Colonial Labs]

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Colonial Labs" pid='79938' dateline='1579823002:

MPS721" pid='79937' dateline='1579822791:

Colonial Labs" pid='79933' dateline='1579822041:

MPS721" pid='79932' dateline='1579821676:

Hey @“Colonial Labs” - couple questions here. I am going to be running the same cycle as @“WalnutBlast” in a few weeks.

Is there a best time to take Aromasin like after injecting, before bed, etc?
Do you think taking Aromasin with 5g of fish oil is safe enough from a fat soluble perspective?

I originally planned on using Adex but I got too scared hearing about the rebound that can happen so I picked up some Asin instead.

I have both on hand, but only plan on using if I need to.

Figured if I post this here, we can both benefit from the advice lol.

Thanks!

Good questions. Aromasin has a short half life. For most, taking it once a day (around midday) seems to work fine. Doesn’t really matter if it’s post or pre injection. I, personally, actually split my daily dose into two doses for the day. Once in the morning about an hour after waking, and the next one around 9 hours later. (I’m on more gear than you plan to run so maybe this won’t provide as much benefit on your cycle and won’t be worth the extra hassle). This keeps me feeling perfect for the whole day. I’m not saying you have to do this, it’s extra hassle but if you don’t mind, I think it is superior to taking it once a day. (9 hour half life in males)

Taking it with 5g fish oils should be sufficient. I, personally, take mine with peanut butter or a meal.

That’s one of the reasons I choose asin over adex also. I hate that rebound you get if you stop adex. I can literally feel my estro spike. Also, I’ve had a hard time nailing arimidex dosage. My estro seems to be either a little too low or high everytime I’ve tried switching to arimidex.

Thanks for the response @“Colonial Labs” ! Ive heard Asin is more prone to losing hair, is this true?

Also do you think its best to just start BnC instead of doing a PCT after my first cycle? Im 27 btw and I can see the logic for both. I mean, if you are just going to lose everything after you come off on PCT then whats the point, right?

The hair loss thing with aromasin is more common in women than men. Never had any issues at all. If you’re prone to baldness or start seeing your hair thinning while on steroids, I’d start taking finasteride 1mg/day. Reverses hair loss in like 90% of users.

And yep, I think PCTing is a waste of time unless you plan to come off forever due to some reason. BnC is the way to go IMO. And yes, you can still have kids after being on for years. There are ways to jack up your sperm count quick even after taking steroids for several years nonstop.

for a first time user, any recommmendations on transitioning from a blast to a cruise?

Simpler than you’d think. Cut out everything and drop your testosterone to ~120-200mg/week. 150mg/week is a good spot for a cruise IMO. Obviously, as you get bigger, your cruise dose will go up a bit to maintain the higher muscle mass. I’d bet a lot of pros “cruise” on like 500mg+ of test. And not even for long. They’re mostly blasting year round.

 

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Simpler than you’d think. Cut out everything and drop your testosterone to ~120-200mg/week. 150mg/week is a good spot for a cruise IMO. Obviously, as you get bigger, your cruise dose will go up a bit to maintain the higher muscle mass. I’d bet a lot of pros “cruise” on like 500mg+ of test. And not even for long. They’re mostly blasting year round.
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And drop out the AI also?

 

[Colonial Labs]

I’ll emphasize that ensuring your health is good should be one of the most important things during your cruise. You don’t want to jump into another blast before your bloodwork looks good. Let your body come back to normality before straining it again.

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Simpler than you’d think. Cut out everything and drop your testosterone to ~120-200mg/week. 150mg/week is a good spot for a cruise IMO. Obviously, as you get bigger, your cruise dose will go up a bit to maintain the higher muscle mass. I’d bet a lot of pros “cruise” on like 500mg+ of test. And not even for long. They’re mostly blasting year round.

And drop out the AI also?
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This’ll depend a lot on the amount of aromatizing gear you were on. In your case, 500mg/week, I’d probably continue the AI for the first week of your cruise, then drop it. Your test levels should have declined enough after that point that you don’t need an AI. If you were on higher doses, you may have to stay on the AI longer, maybe like 2 weeks before cutting it out.