Blast: Test & Low Dose Tren

[Raptor]

Ok, heres what I have decided . I could use some more advice from those who have done this .

I have been cruising on a fairly test dose for a while. ( we can get into that later ). 200mg every 4th day.
For my blast I am going switch to Test Prop, 500wk. and add Tren A around 140-150 mg / week. Pinning Daily. I plan to do this for 6 weeks.
Maybe I’ll go a little longer, maybe i’ll up the tren ( i doubt it ). but this is the plan for now.
I will on the blast after the tren with Test E at 500mg… The remaining blast will go for another 6 to 8 weeks.

Need help here:
Question: Do I up the Test E to make up for the tren being gone? Or add in something else when the tren is gone ?

I have taken tren in the past. it was a long ass time ago though. moderately dosed with a ton of other shit, no issues that I recall as far as sides go other than the insane libido.

thanks in advance for the help

 

[bodydysmorphia]

Why switch to test prop? This will only cause you more discomfort and cost more money than an equal amount of test e. Why switch to test e at the end at an equal dosage? There is no reason to switch esters, nor would there be a benefit to you using test prop over enth in the first place. Trens fine, however I’d recommend just running tren enth (You could bump to 200mg to offset the fact there is less tren per mg if that’s a concern) as well for the same reasons.

 

[Juicelee2.0]

Your whole cycle is a mess . You are over complicating . Just use Test E the whole time. That Tren dose will accomplish nothing . 350 a week, 50 ED . Assess from there . Even with the acetate ester , you’ll want to run it for at least 8 weeks.
What is the goal of this cycle. It’s not clear at all. More then willing to help , but more info needed. Height . Weight , body fat, goals of blast.
Your “cruise” dose is a blast really, not recovering . So this is all just one really long blast with no clear direction. That’s my assessment from the information preovided so far

 

[Raptor]

bodydysmorphia" pid='90175' dateline='1589823707:

Why switch to test prop? This will only cause you more discomfort and cost more money than an equal amount of test e. Why switch to test e at the end at an equal dosage? There is no reason to switch esters, nor would there be a benefit to you using test prop over enth in the first place. Trens fine, however I’d recommend just running tren enth (You could bump to 200mg to offset the fact there is less tren per mg if that’s a concern) as well for the same reasons.

Thanks for this reply. I really appreciate it. My reasoning was purely based on the fact that i had done a version of this in the past. this was how. but with
heavier dose of both .

the switching back the enth or cyp was only because i intending to drop the prop when i dropped the tren and wanting to keep the test going.

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Juicelee2.0" pid='90208' dateline='1589851675:

Your whole cycle is a mess . You are over complicating . Just use Test E the whole time. That Tren dose will accomplish nothing . 350 a week, 50 ED . Assess from there . Even with the acetate ester , you’ll want to run it for at least 8 weeks.
What is the goal of this cycle. It’s not clear at all. More then willing to help , but more info needed. Height . Weight , body fat, goals of blast.
Your “cruise” dose is a blast really, not recovering . So this is all just one really long blast with no clear direction. That’s my assessment from the information preovided so far

Thank you for the reply. For note, I know my cruise has gotten way to high. I intend to drop that after the blast.
Im not hung up on the test ester , I just figured if i chose tren A and was going to pin every day, then why not mix the test with it and move on. And also because I’ve done it before. But I am open to better advice for sure.
Since it has been so long since I have done a real good blast that is why I wanted to do this one. I wanted the benefits of the tren that i got before but keep it as safe as possible. I was way to careless in my earlier years. I have read on here, and had a buddy get pretty good results from his low dose tren.

My goals are always simple, get a little bigger, look a whole lot fucking better, feel a lot better. and go from there. Im not hung up on whether i get strength gains or not. I also can stay pretty lean on most anything i have taken and water comes off easy.

5’10. 210. lean. i dont measure body fat. never cared personally. I have a soft 6 pack . lean enough for me to feel to good.

 

[bodydysmorphia]

Raptor" pid='90214' dateline='1589854860:

bodydysmorphia" pid='90175' dateline='1589823707:

Why switch to test prop? This will only cause you more discomfort and cost more money than an equal amount of test e. Why switch to test e at the end at an equal dosage? There is no reason to switch esters, nor would there be a benefit to you using test prop over enth in the first place. Trens fine, however I’d recommend just running tren enth (You could bump to 200mg to offset the fact there is less tren per mg if that’s a concern) as well for the same reasons.

Thanks for this reply. I really appreciate it. My reasoning was purely based on the fact that i had done a version of this in the past. this was how. but with
heavier dose of both .

the switching back the enth or cyp was only because i intending to drop the prop when i dropped the tren and wanting to keep the test going.

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Juicelee2.0" pid='90208' dateline='1589851675:

Your whole cycle is a mess . You are over complicating . Just use Test E the whole time. That Tren dose will accomplish nothing . 350 a week, 50 ED . Assess from there . Even with the acetate ester , you’ll want to run it for at least 8 weeks.
What is the goal of this cycle. It’s not clear at all. More then willing to help , but more info needed. Height . Weight , body fat, goals of blast.
Your “cruise” dose is a blast really, not recovering . So this is all just one really long blast with no clear direction. That’s my assessment from the information preovided so far

Thank you for the reply. For note, I know my cruise has gotten way to high. I intend to drop that after the blast.
Im not hung up on the test ester , I just figured if i chose tren A and was going to pin every day, then why not mix the test with it and move on. And also because I’ve done it before. But I am open to better advice for sure.
Since it has been so long since I have done a real good blast that is why I wanted to do this one. I wanted the benefits of the tren that i got before but keep it as safe as possible. I was way to careless in my earlier years. I have read on here, and had a buddy get pretty good results from his low dose tren.

My goals are always simple, get a little bigger, look a whole lot fucking better, feel a lot better. and go from there. Im not hung up on whether i get strength gains or not. I also can stay pretty lean on most anything i have taken and water comes off easy.

5’10. 210. lean. i dont measure body fat. never cared personally. I have a soft 6 pack . lean enough for me to feel to good.

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Your tren dosage is fine, you’d benefit with 75mg a week even.
If you want to pin ED you can still pin test e ed with tren.

 

[Raptor]

Raptor" pid='90214' dateline='1589854860:

bodydysmorphia" pid='90175' dateline='1589823707:

Why switch to test prop? This will only cause you more discomfort and cost more money than an equal amount of test e. Why switch to test e at the end at an equal dosage? There is no reason to switch esters, nor would there be a benefit to you using test prop over enth in the first place. Trens fine, however I’d recommend just running tren enth (You could bump to 200mg to offset the fact there is less tren per mg if that’s a concern) as well for the same reasons.

Your tren dosage is fine, you’d benefit with 75mg a week even.
If you want to pin ED you can still pin test e ed with tren.

Would you keep the tren dose at the 140-150 range or bump to 200 if I switched to E.
As far as the tren goes, would you personally run the A or the E ?

LOL, If I run E on both, I wont be pinning every day.

 

[DHT]

bodydysmorphia" pid='90249' dateline='1589892438:

Raptor" pid='90214' dateline='1589854860:

bodydysmorphia" pid='90175' dateline='1589823707:

Why switch to test prop? This will only cause you more discomfort and cost more money than an equal amount of test e. Why switch to test e at the end at an equal dosage? There is no reason to switch esters, nor would there be a benefit to you using test prop over enth in the first place. Trens fine, however I’d recommend just running tren enth (You could bump to 200mg to offset the fact there is less tren per mg if that’s a concern) as well for the same reasons.

Your tren dosage is fine, you’d benefit with 75mg a week even.
If you want to pin ED you can still pin test e ed with tren.

Would you keep the tren dose at the 140-150 range or bump to 200 if I switched to E.
As far as the tren goes, would you personally run the A or the E ?

LOL, If I run E on both, I wont be pinning every day.

1.Keep your test E dose the same, and add prop / tren a on top.
2.Or just run more test E.
3.Or just run tren e.

Really just do 500 test e and 200-250 tren e and be done with it.

pinning everyday for such low doses of tren or pinning everyday just to do prop doesnt make sense.

 

[system]

20mg tren ace ED
75mg test e ED

reassess after that 6 week period and determine if you want to keep going, change the dose, drop the tren, whatever. if you want to pin any less frequently than ED do not use ace. tren e EOD or E3D would be just fine, you’d just need to compensate for the ester weight and up the dose a bit as another user already mentioned.

 

[bodydysmorphia]

bodydysmorphia" pid='90249' dateline='1589892438:

Raptor" pid='90214' dateline='1589854860:

bodydysmorphia" pid='90175' dateline='1589823707:

Why switch to test prop? This will only cause you more discomfort and cost more money than an equal amount of test e. Why switch to test e at the end at an equal dosage? There is no reason to switch esters, nor would there be a benefit to you using test prop over enth in the first place. Trens fine, however I’d recommend just running tren enth (You could bump to 200mg to offset the fact there is less tren per mg if that’s a concern) as well for the same reasons.

Your tren dosage is fine, you’d benefit with 75mg a week even.
If you want to pin ED you can still pin test e ed with tren.

Would you keep the tren dose at the 140-150 range or bump to 200 if I switched to E.
As far as the tren goes, would you personally run the A or the E ?

LOL, If I run E on both, I wont be pinning every day.

150mg of tren would be fine. I personally would do 200 as it’s easier to pull .5ml than .35 2x a week. But I’m lazy.

 

[Raptor]

kingofcarbz" pid='90306' dateline='1589938852:

20mg tren ace ED
75mg test e ED

reassess after that 6 week period and determine if you want to keep going, change the dose, drop the tren, whatever. if you want to pin any less frequently than ED do not use ace. tren e EOD or E3D would be just fine, you’d just need to compensate for the ester weight and up the dose a bit as another user already mentioned.

@“kingofcarbz” thanks bro. I appreciate this. I keep leaning towards the tren A anyway. so this helps me. I will probably proceed with this path and report it all here.

is there any benefit to mixing prop with test E at all into this since I have already been on for a while ?

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1.Keep your test E dose the same, and add prop / tren a on top.
2.Or just run more test E.
3.Or just run tren e.

Really just do 500 test e and 200-250 tren e and be done with it.

pinning everyday for such low doses of tren or pinning everyday just to do prop doesnt make sense.
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@“DHT”
I appreciate the reply bro. I don’t disagree about just adding Tren E and get on with it. For the sake of conversation, wouldn’t pinning tren daily , E or A, be the best option for consistent levels, sides, etc ?

 

[DHT]

Raptor" pid='90354' dateline='1589995547:

kingofcarbz" pid='90306' dateline='1589938852:

20mg tren ace ED
75mg test e ED

reassess after that 6 week period and determine if you want to keep going, change the dose, drop the tren, whatever. if you want to pin any less frequently than ED do not use ace. tren e EOD or E3D would be just fine, you’d just need to compensate for the ester weight and up the dose a bit as another user already mentioned.

@“kingofcarbz” thanks bro. I appreciate this. I keep leaning towards the tren A anyway. so this helps me. I will probably proceed with this path and report it all here.

is there any benefit to mixing prop with test E at all into this since I have already been on for a while ?

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1.Keep your test E dose the same, and add prop / tren a on top.
2.Or just run more test E.
3.Or just run tren e.

Really just do 500 test e and 200-250 tren e and be done with it.

pinning everyday for such low doses of tren or pinning everyday just to do prop doesnt make sense.
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@“DHT”
I appreciate the reply bro. I don’t disagree about just adding Tren E and get on with it. For the sake of conversation, wouldn’t pinning tren daily , E or A, be the best option for consistent levels, sides, etc ?
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you can look at steroid plot, the acetate ester even when injected everyday, has a very short half life and a larger fluctuation than youd think. Plus the enanthate ester is longer so the fluctuations are slower.