When does it expire

[1reaper6]

So one thing I always wondered is how long before the Test E expires?

How long do orals last? I am thinking of buying a bulk order of Epi and Anavar before my upcoming job rotation for which I will be away a year or two.

 

[system]

orals will last a lot longer than oils. the oils will depend on the carrier oil and if/when it goes rancid (i think? i’m sure a source will be able to confirm/deny). i’ve used something like 3 year expired (pharma) test c in gso before and had no issue at the time

 

[flashpass123]

This is actually a good question

 

[keoking]

Only have anecdotal info from threads I’ve read on boards. They say that first the potency will degrade. Most threads said that Tren will degrade faster than Test, but no one has any hard numbers. But we are still talking about yearly degradation, not monthly. Eventually the carrier oil will degrade and ‘sour’, and this will depend a lot on the choice of oil and the other components in the brew.

tl;dr Pharma Test probably has a 1yr expiration because it is easy to print that one a vial. Oil are probably usable for 3-5 years, but potency will probably be degraded to some degree. I’ve never read a single thread about the degradation / expiration of dry orals.

 

[clang2bang]

FDA and Defense Department have been running a test for a three decades on expired drugs, seeing if they are still good.

The steroid related drugs that I saw in the paper are Furosemide(which lasted four years past expiration date), Enalapril(which lasted three years past expiration date) and Albuterol (which lasted zero years past expiration date)

The ones in the study that are stay good the longest are:
Amoxicillin sodium Tablets
Ciprofloxacin Tablets
Diphenhydramine HCl Syringe-needle
Doxycycline hyclate Capsules
Doxycycline hyclate Powder
Halothane Liquid
Mannitol Injection-solution
Morphine sulfate Syringe-needle
Naloxone HCl Injection-solution
Oxacillin sodium Powder
Potassium iodide Tablets
Sodium bicarbonate Injection-solution
Sodium chloride Irrigation
Sodium nitrite Injection-solution
Sodium thiosulfate Injection-solution

see for more details: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3525372/Stability-Profiles-of-Expired-Drugs.pdf

 

[Bearslovecheese]

My workout partner back in the day showed me some 8+ year old Russian testosterone amps he had, oil was clear and no obvious signs of degradation. I was natty at the time, he said he’d just give them to me if I wanted to try it out, he had juiced back in the 80’s/90’s and I guess had bought them in the 2000’s in case he wanted to go back on but never did. Was pretty cool, and fuck I wish I had said “lets do this!” at the time. Wasted so much time being “Holier than thou” and thinking I was cool for being strong/thick and natty.

 

[Nuts2Butts]

I feel like the odds of a small seal leak or a little bacteria in there is probably a bigger risk than the compound itself degrading. From what I’ve seen on pills, they usually degrade by no more than 10% in 5 years. A substance in an oil may be different, but I don’t really know why it would be.

There are a few things that are highly unstable and degrade pretty quickly(like HGH), but most substances hold up a lot better than that if they’re protected from the environment.

I’d imagine if you have perfectly sealed, bacteria free vial of test, it should easily be good for 5 years.

 

[supercam]

I can’t speak on the degradation but I recently used some of thane’s Test e (if you guys remember him from sst). Anyways it’s between 2-3 years old and the PIP was rediculous. I’ve had a lump for over a week now in my quad.

 

[clang2bang]

I been cruising with momma lab’s test e for a year, all from the same purchase, all hundred injections went fine. Until a couple of weeks ago I injected from a new vial: got a lump, injected it again three days later, and got a new lump. The lumps are still there, but I’ve thrown away all of that test e.

I think I’m gonna try to buy less than a year’s worth of gear at a time from now on.

 

[Aman]

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I can’t speak on the degradation but I recently used some of thane’s Test e (if you guys remember him from sst). Anyways it’s between 2-3 years old and the PIP was rediculous. I’ve had a lump for over a week now in my quad.

Have you pinned it anywhere else, yet? And have you pinned your quads, before?

I had some dirty shit, years ago, that would leave my arms red from delt to elbow and hot like a sunburn. Quite painful, too…
It was the first gear I’d ever pinned. My first pin was in my quad and it left me nearly crippled for a week. I couldn’t bend my knee at all. However, I could still stay mobile if I pinned it in my delts. My bud that I got it from (It was just Test E 250mg/ml) gave me my first pin in my glute. It left a baseball sized knot there for a few days, too.

I’ve never pinned my quads since then because I couldn’t tell if I did it wrong or if it was the gear, alone… or actually a combination of both lol. I could hardly get out of bed without being able to lift or bend my leg. I swear… I’m scared to this day, 6 years later, to even try and pin a quad, again.

Edit: I don’t know the guy you’re talking about, nor am I trying to defend him in anyway. I’m genuinely curious… plus I guess I need to build up my post count. I never set up a new account since SST changed from the original SST… mainly because my previous “burner e-mail” domain wasn’t compatible here.

 

[supercam]

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I can’t speak on the degradation but I recently used some of thane’s Test e (if you guys remember him from sst). Anyways it’s between 2-3 years old and the PIP was rediculous. I’ve had a lump for over a week now in my quad.

Have you pinned it anywhere else, yet? And have you pinned your quads, before?

I had some dirty shit, years ago, that would leave my arms red from delt to elbow and hot like a sunburn. Quite painful, too…
It was the first gear I’d ever pinned. My first pin was in my quad and it left me nearly crippled for a week. I couldn’t bend my knee at all. However, I could still stay mobile if I pinned it in my delts. My bud that I got it from (It was just Test E 250mg/ml) gave me my first pin in my glute. It left a baseball sized knot there for a few days, too.

I’ve never pinned my quads since then because I couldn’t tell if I did it wrong or if it was the gear, alone… or actually a combination of both lol. I could hardly get out of bed without being able to lift or bend my leg. I swear… I’m scared to this day, 6 years later, to even try and pin a quad, again.

Edit: I don’t know the guy you’re talking about, nor am I trying to defend him in anyway. I’m genuinely curious… plus I guess I need to build up my post count. I never set up a new account since SST changed from the original SST… mainly because my previous “burner e-mail” domain wasn’t compatible here.

Yeh I pinned my glute as well and it’s not as bad but the lump is still taking forever to go away. His stuff was always good though. I think it’s just bc it’s old or maybe got contaminated over time.

 

[Nuts2Butts]

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I can’t speak on the degradation but I recently used some of thane’s Test e (if you guys remember him from sst). Anyways it’s between 2-3 years old and the PIP was rediculous. I’ve had a lump for over a week now in my quad.

If you’re not planning to throw it out, try baking it for 45 minutes at 275 degrees(f), with a needle in the top. It probably just has some bacteria in it.