Two orals and liver toxicity

[ForeverTrenbolone]

Does anybody have an experience or even bloodwork comparing two orals at half doses vs one oral at full dose? Which was worse or how lipids were affected etc.

Or does anybody have any evidence that “X” oral is more toxic than “Y? For example it seems halo is usu regarded as highly liver toxic but var is considered mild however there’s really no data to back that up, just broscience. Anecdotally it seems var can fuck lipids in the ass for some people.

I plan on running two orals next blast and just wanted to have an open discussion on the topic. My plan is running low-moderate doses of var and tbol for the first 4 weeks.

 

[AQualityPoop]

I think you’d be fine with Var and Tbol man. Stay on top of cardio, fish oils, heart health supps, liver support, etc. I’m on 50mg Var in addition to Tren Ace right now and I add in 20mg of Superdrol on “refeed” or super high carb days lol. I’m more concerned with liver toxicity than lipids. So I take 1.5g TUDCA on those days.

 

[Trenbolognese]

Yeah I agree you’ll probably be fine. The only issue is that people’s values differ widely. Some people can’t handle orals at all, and then I have ran mTren, Sdrol, and Var together and had normal lipid values and only slightly elevated liver enzymes.

 

[AQualityPoop]

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Does anybody have an experience or even bloodwork comparing two orals at half doses vs one oral at full dose? Which was worse or how lipids were affected etc.

Or does anybody have any evidence that “X” oral is more toxic than “Y? For example it seems halo is usu regarded as highly liver toxic but var is considered mild however there’s really no data to back that up, just broscience. Anecdotally it seems var can fuck lipids in the ass for some people.

I plan on running two orals next blast and just wanted to have an open discussion on the topic. My plan is running low-moderate doses of var and tbol for the first 4 weeks.

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Yeah I agree you’ll probably be fine. The only issue is that people’s values differ widely. Some people can’t handle orals at all, and then I have ran mTren, Sdrol, and Var together and had normal lipid values and only slightly elevated liver enzymes.

You have an iron liver. Jealous. I stacked Epistane and Sdrol with Test E on my first cycle and boy that was a mistake. AST and ALT ~200

 

[mkg13c]

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Does anybody have an experience or even bloodwork comparing two orals at half doses vs one oral at full dose? Which was worse or how lipids were affected etc.

Or does anybody have any evidence that “X” oral is more toxic than “Y? For example it seems halo is usu regarded as highly liver toxic but var is considered mild however there’s really no data to back that up, just broscience. Anecdotally it seems var can fuck lipids in the ass for some people.

I plan on running two orals next blast and just wanted to have an open discussion on the topic. My plan is running low-moderate doses of var and tbol for the first 4 weeks.

Trenbolognese" pid='20476' dateline='1532034013:

Yeah I agree you’ll probably be fine. The only issue is that people’s values differ widely. Some people can’t handle orals at all, and then I have ran mTren, Sdrol, and Var together and had normal lipid values and only slightly elevated liver enzymes.

You have an iron liver. Jealous. I stacked Epistane and Sdrol with Test E on my first cycle and boy that was a mistake. AST and ALT ~200

What support supps were you running?

I was thinking about adding 40-60mg anavar to my Test and Superdrol (20mg/day) cycle right now. Would be taking about 750mg TUDCA, 1800mg NAC, and then Rich Piana’s Organ Shield or whatever its called on top of that.

 

[Trenbolognese]

I usually run around 3g NAC and 500mg TUDCA. NAC is stupid cheap if you buy in bulk from places like bulk supplements (over a years worth for like $50) so I keep it around to not have to plow through 1g TUDCA per day. Works for me at least.