Tren is the shit! / Beware

[swoleassnigga]

Started my first Tren cycle 2/17, dosage Tren A 50mg ed / Test C 150 ew. Felt great all most instantly started gaining in 3-5 days no sides. I monitored my BP daily, started to rise but leveled off. My normal BP is 130-140/80-90.
3/8 am BP was 127/77 went to gym stretched, downed PW started to warm up and couldn’t catch my breath, heart racing. Went home and felt out of breath just going up one flight of stairs BP was 167/107. My stomach was very bloated.
I stopped tren and work out and cut down little on food for 1 week Bloat went away, BP back to normal. Went back to gym didn’t loose any strength at all, gained a little actually.
Started tren back at 25 ed, lowered calorie intake little.
BP has been good. Moral of the story is Tren is the fucking shit but be very careful!
I know for me any info I can read on others experiences helps my decisions so I hope this may help someone. The amount of time it took from severe sides to back to normal but still keeping strength gains is worthy to note.

 

[bigwin]

trest + masteron + low carb diet is a better feel-good cycle.
you can still breathe, bone all night, then do it all over again the following night.

 

[swoleassnigga]

bigwin" pid='3253' dateline='1521313929:

trest + masteron + low carb diet is a better feel-good cycle.
you can still breathe, bone all night, then do it all over again the following night.

Thanks maybe I’ll try it.

 

[goodstufftakestime]

130-140? That’s a bit high. Higher than that is downright scary.

 

[aboynamedj]

I’m on 250 Test E and 500 Tren E right now. The trensomnia isn’t bothering me. What does bother me is every time I do fall asleep I dream about girls that I like and I wake up angry and horny.

 

[jklolbrb1]

aboynamedj" pid='3438' dateline='1521461479:

I’m on 250 Test E and 500 Tren E right now. The trensomnia isn’t bothering me. What does bother me is every time I do fall asleep I dream about girls that I like and I wake up angry and horny.

Tell me about it. The number of times that I wake up full mast in the middle of the night and also have to piss is the worst.

 

[aboynamedj]

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aboynamedj" pid='3438' dateline='1521461479:

I’m on 250 Test E and 500 Tren E right now. The trensomnia isn’t bothering me. What does bother me is every time I do fall asleep I dream about girls that I like and I wake up angry and horny.

Tell me about it. The number of times that I wake up full mast in the middle of the night and also have to piss is the worst.

I wake up about every hour to piss and then it takes me about an hour to fall back asleep. I only get about 4 hours of sleep a night, yet I feel more well rested than ever.

 

[Bearslovecheese]

Sides hit different people differently. That said, you found out why 50 ED (350/week) is actually a pretty big chunk of Tren and SHOULD bring about sides in most people. 175 will do good things. At 120 I could feel it working with only some mild trensomnia and slightly elevated BP/HR. Went to 240 and the BP/HR thing really bothered me/made me nervous and the trensomnia could only be dealt with via trazadone personally. Next time I dabble with tren (cruising currently before a nandrolone summer) it will probably stay 120 and combine with some oral action or something. Shit is awesome in the gym though!

 

[Randysavagewheww]

600mg tren e. what is sleep?

 

[Truckertrash]

Randysavagewheww" pid='3556' dateline='1521511843:

600mg tren e. what is sleep?

That’s what I’m talkin about!! Haha

 

[aboynamedj]

Randysavagewheww" pid='3556' dateline='1521511843:

600mg tren e. what is sleep?

3 1.5 hour bursts.

 

[Rcd3t]

Bearslovecheese" pid='3493' dateline='1521482035:

Sides hit different people differently. That said, you found out why 50 ED (350/week) is actually a pretty big chunk of Tren and SHOULD bring about sides in most people. 175 will do good things. At 120 I could feel it working with only some mild trensomnia and slightly elevated BP/HR. Went to 240 and the BP/HR thing really bothered me/made me nervous and the trensomnia could only be dealt with via trazadone personally. Next time I dabble with tren (cruising currently before a nandrolone summer) it will probably stay 120 and combine with some oral action or something. Shit is awesome in the gym though!

Where did you get the trazadone and what dosages did you use it at? I’m prescribed ambien but it’s not working too well unless I double the dose. If i do that then i run out too quickly and my doctor won’t prescribe more obviously. Looking for alternatives and refuse to take benzo’s for sleep.

 

[Bearslovecheese]

AIPCTshop sells it in 25, 50, and 100mg dosages. I buy the 100mg and was using 100mg while on. I’ve still been using it but need to swap to diphenhydramine and come off now that I don’t have a reason to be taking the Traz. When I was at 120 taking a half pill was good to go, going up made 100 necessary to get a decent nights sleep. Pretty cheap, absolutely worth it. Only side effect I experience is a really dry mouth, but I tolerate all meds very well. Make sure you look at the other possible sides and make an informed decision. Hell, if Ambien isn’t working so well you could probably get it prescribed generic from your doctor.

 

[swoleassnigga]

Bearslovecheese" pid='3493' dateline='1521482035:

Sides hit different people differently. That said, you found out why 50 ED (350/week) is actually a pretty big chunk of Tren and SHOULD bring about sides in most people. 175 will do good things. At 120 I could feel it working with only some mild trensomnia and slightly elevated BP/HR. Went to 240 and the BP/HR thing really bothered me/made me nervous and the trensomnia could only be dealt with via trazadone personally. Next time I dabble with tren (cruising currently before a nandrolone summer) it will probably stay 120 and combine with some oral action or something. Shit is awesome in the gym though!

Thanks for the replay. I like comparing notes. I dropped my dose in half and a week later had the problem again. Not so much BP but like a panic attack, feeling out of breath but at same time fear or anxiety. I found out every time it happens was right after ingesting caffeine. Last time it happened I was just thinking about not being able to breath while swimming and heart started racing and had to put cold towel on my head to chill. at lower dose it goes away pretty quick. I think it may be do high prolactin but didn’t get bloodwork yet. I don’t want to take AI’s or Cabor so stay at lower dosage. Nandrolone I had no sides. Tren sides were minimal but Panic and not being able to breath is were I draw the line. Just wanted to say I’m 56 years old will be 57 in may been lifting for 20 years and started TRT 2 years ago. My age has a lot to do with BP I think. I have a choice now drop dosage again or Quit cycle. I started taking Mucuna Pruriens Extract (L-Dopa) skipped yesterdays dose may dose again to night and resume. I agree totaly a little goes a long way, strength increased in days even on 175mg’s I’m still gaining. It’s fucking incredible to say the least.

 

[Bearslovecheese]

Being on 120 for a month then 240 for 6 more weeks I ended up taking approx 2 total .375 tablets of Prami that I cut in half so 4 doses. This was by feel not bloodwork. Don’t think prolactin was MUCH of an issue if that is all it took. Last test/NPP cycle with 300 NPP I didn’t need anything.

FWIW I don’t plan on running tren again without Nebivolol and at your age you may absolutely benefit from it. Have you had cardiac testing done? When the time comes to come off the extra hormones and drop to just your TRT dose it may be worth seeking out a cardiac exam simply to get your cardiac arteries checked out for plaque build up, any significant signs of LVH (having lifted for decades it’s easy to imagine you would at least exhibit minor LVH), and general health/markers/indicators. Can’t fuck with your heart. Get a clean bill and ask about medication for your heart like Nebivolol or what they would recommend. Neb is pretty awesome and seems ideal for use on Tren. I don’t plan on running Tren again without it, hated the constantly elevated heart rate and don’t like the idea of walking around with elevated BP if I can help it.

As you’ve already experienced, even low dose tren gets results. Worst case scenario is you combine TRT test, low dose tren, and low-moderate dose Nandrolone for a cycle. I do love that on a tren cycle I don’t have to worry at all about AI.

 

[Breeze]

I’m relatively new to AAS use and have never used tren and likely never will based on the research I’ve done on how it affects breathing and how terrible some of the sides can be. Asthmatic here and the last thing I need is something constricting my airway. Be careful with the BP issues man… it’s not called the silent killer for nothing. Based on your name I’m assuming you’re a black guy…would be a shitty name if you’re not. But like it or not black guys are generally predispositioned for hypertension especially into middle age years. I’ve seen many people end up on dialysis for no other reason than uncontrolled hypertension. Bronchodilators like albuterol could be helpful to alleviate symptoms of shortness of breath but also carry the side effect of increasing heart rate therefore also driving up BP simultaneously. Xopenex is a bronchodilator that is marketed to have less of a stimulatory effect than albuterol but it still does to a certain degree. I’m a bit of an older guy too and IMHO maybe the best answer to stay away from the harsher compounds and appreciate the fact that you’re still badass enough to be doing any of this stuff at this point in life.

 

[TheTrenTrannyTrain]

bigwin" pid='3253' dateline='1521313929:

trest + masteron + low carb diet is a better feel-good cycle.
you can still breathe, bone all night, then do it all over again the following night.

What is it about low carb+tren that doesn’t mess up your cardio? All I know is Tren makes your body burn carb to generate heat, so avoid carb before bed.

 

[Swoleberry_smiggles]

Sounds like youre a tren noobie. Right now I’m on 250/700/700 Test/Tren/Mast and I feel like a fucking god, mentally and physically. Control your sodium/carbs, take singulair (helps with cardio/breathing), 5HTP and Melatonin before bed. I’ve ran tren 4 times and only my first run I was a little out of control. Once you add those into the mix you feel just fucking good all the time.

 

[appropionate]

Swoleberry_smiggles" pid='4460' dateline='1522168159:

Sounds like youre a tren noobie. Right now I’m on 250/700/700 Test/Tren/Mast and I feel like a fucking god, mentally and physically. Control your sodium/carbs, take singulair (helps with cardio/breathing), 5HTP and Melatonin before bed. I’ve ran tren 4 times and only my first run I was a little out of control. Once you add those into the mix you feel just fucking good all the time.

trensomnia & the emotional sides (partially due to oxycotin iirc) raising your stress levels over the duration of the cycle, as well as a tendency to fuck with your dopamine/serotonine in different ways just fucks some people over no matter the precautions in my experience.

what do you keep your sodium at btw, and do you balance that out with potassium intake? what do you mean by controlling your carbs? tren thrives on carbs so much that I’ve never understood people cutting carbs unnecessarily, other to migitate the night sweats.

 

[Buckwyld1986]

Swoleberry_smiggles" pid='4460' dateline='1522168159:

Sounds like youre a tren noobie. Right now I’m on 250/700/700 Test/Tren/Mast and I feel like a fucking god, mentally and physically. Control your sodium/carbs, take singulair (helps with cardio/breathing), 5HTP and Melatonin before bed. I’ve ran tren 4 times and only my first run I was a little out of control. Once you add those into the mix you feel just fucking good all the time.

What are your daily calories/macros and are you bulking or cutting?

I feel like cutting on Tren brings on more sides than bulking, being hungry all the time is the worst.