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[Jron1]

First order from India was smooth. Placed another order now that I’m feeling good about their packs making it thru with no issues. Wanna try some finn for hair fall cause primo is nuking my hair pretty hard.

 

[GPurePro]

I just thought if anyone's wondering you should know this is how they handle testing

Tests not available, unwilling to retest.

 

[The_Mentalorian]

First order from India was smooth. Placed another order now that I’m feeling good about their packs making it thru with no issues. Wanna try some finn for hair fall cause primo is nuking my hair pretty hard.

I got some bad news for you brother, but Fin won’t help with hair loss from a synthetic DHT like Primo or Mast. It only reduces your body’s own conversion of test to DHT. Same thing with Duta. The only thing that might help you is something topical like RU that will stop DHT from binding to the receptors in your scalp. Topical Fin with Min might help also, but if you’re prone to hair loss from Primo, you’re limited on options unfortunately.

 

[Jron1]

I got some bad news for you brother, but Fin won’t help with hair loss from a synthetic DHT like Primo or Mast. It only reduces your body’s own conversion of test to DHT. Same thing with Duta. The only thing that might help you is something topical like RU that will stop DHT from binding to the receptors in your scalp. Topical Fin with Min might help also, but if you’re prone to hair loss from Primo, you’re limited on options unfortunately.

Damn so basically minox is best bet for now while using primo? What if I drop primo would taking 0.5mg fin be good while just on trt? Really like using trt and primo cause no AI needed.

 

[Jron1]

Cotr

I just thought if anyone's wondering you should know this is how they handle testing

Tests not available, unwilling to retest.

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Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t their moda products all from India pharma companies? I’d still be interested in blind testing of that product. Would be awesome to see the results.

 

[PCT4ME]

I just thought if anyone's wondering you should know this is how they handle testing

Tests not available, unwilling to retest.

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LOL another clown who thinks India pharma is A) Like a UGL that needs constant retesting and B) "This Modafinil is bunk", despite there not being a single credible lab test EVER showing underdosed Moda. The active ingredient is less than a penny per pill. A PENNY.

What is real are all the morons who insist they have fake modafinil because it's a very subtle drug, not like the adderall mommy's been feeding them since they were 8 years old.

 

[PCT4ME]

Damn so basically minox is best bet for now while using primo? What if I drop primo would taking 0.5mg fin be good while just on trt? Really like using trt and primo cause no AI needed.

Don't listen to this BS. DHT derived compounds are NOT DHT. They can increase DHT by lowering SHBG. Reducing DHT production (to prevent permanent destruction of hair growing stem cells) with Finasteride must be at the base of any hair loss prevention strategy. ORAL minoxidil (for improved blood flow to follicles) #2 most effective compound(but only a bandaid without Finasteride), Ketoconozole Shampoo (to reduce inflammation that kills stem cells that DHT has bound to) 2x week left on for 5 mins #3. Everything else is hardly worth the effort. All three of the above represent 98% of what can be done to preserve your hair. PRESERVE is the key word. Recovering any amount is very difficult, your hairline is as good as it'll ever be, right now. We don't wait until our teeth are falling out to brush, right?

 

[Jron1]

Don't listen to this BS. DHT derived compounds are NOT DHT. They can increase DHT by lowering SHBG. Reducing DHT production (to prevent permanent destruction of hair growing stem cells) with Finasteride must be at the base of any hair loss prevention strategy. ORAL minoxidil (for improved blood flow to follicles) #2 most effective compound(but only a bandaid without Finasteride), Ketoconozole Shampoo (to reduce inflammation that kills stem cells that DHT has bound to) 2x week left on for 5 mins #3. Everything else is hardly worth the effort. All three of the above represent 98% of what can be done to preserve your hair. PRESERVE is the key word. Recovering any amount is very difficult, your hairline is as good as it'll ever be, right now. We don't wait until our teeth are falling out to brush, right?

Thanks bro. I got Fin ordered cause legit everyone who is working to preserve their hair is on it. Got some of the foam minox but would like to switch to oral minox as well. Is there somewhere you could recommend for oral minox cause I’ve never seen it for sale in an oral form.

Was born bald and probably going to die bald. Brother has good hairline and I just got the short end of the genetic lottery apparently. :’( Yeah if teeth are screwed i definitely wouldn’t delay fixing it. Gotta stay ontop of that stuff. The foam minox did have a side effect of lowering blood pressure. Very helpful suggestions though.

 

[PCT4ME]

Thanks bro. I got Fin ordered cause legit everyone who is working to preserve their hair is on it. Got some of the foam minox but would like to switch to oral minox as well. Is there somewhere you could recommend for oral minox cause I’ve never seen it for sale in an oral form.

Was born bald and probably going to die bald. Brother has good hairline and I just got the short end of the genetic lottery apparently. :’( Yeah if teeth are screwed i definitely wouldn’t want to fix it. Gotta stay ontop of that stuff. The foam minox did have a side effect of lowering blood pressure. Very helpful suggestions though.

Any PCT place sells oral minoxidil. Start with 2.5mg, day, then 5mg after a few weeks and any sides have stopped (light water retention). It's so much easier to deal with then messy foam and a lot cheaper. Also, foam is ineffective in quite a few guys because it requires a specific enzyme in the skin to convert it to the active substance, which many lack in sufficient quantity.

The real key is consistency. Every day, on cycle or not. These things don't work overnight. Real visible improvement takes 6 months, keeps improving for years in many cases.

Keep in mind, extra shedding from both minox and fin is NORMAL in the first couple of months, then stops. It's a "reset" of the normal grow, stop, shed hair cycle.

Just get Fin and Minox to. a tolerable dose, and use it daily without fail. I'm *very* sensitive to fin, so use .25mg, a quarter of a pill, daily, and get 90% of the benefits of 1mg with zero sides. Stopped all loss and regained significant hair after a year.

 

[The_Mentalorian]

Don't listen to this BS. DHT derived compounds are NOT DHT. They can increase DHT by lowering SHBG.

Hmmm… so if Finasteride only prevents testosterone from reducing into DHT, yet DHT derived steroids such as Primo, Mast, Proviron, etc increase DHT by lowering SHBG levels, then Finasteride, as I said, would not prevent hair loss from DHT derived steroids such as Primo.

Thanks for confirming what I said but just in a condescending way.

The rest of what you said is spot on though and should be common knowledge for anyone afraid of losing their hair. I’ve been on 1mg Fin for 3 years with topical Fin and Min, plus once weekly derma rolling and Primo still nuked my shit.

Also, it should be mentioned that once you start taking Fin, Nandrolone is off the table as it reduces to DHN and combining it with Fin will actually accelerate hair loss as it stops the conversion process.

 

[PCT.ZONE]

I just thought if anyone's wondering you should know this is how they handle testing

Tests not available, unwilling to retest.

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Hello,

I wanted to let you know that the product you requested has already been recently tested, just last month. So, if you decide to proceed with the testing, rest assured that it won't be as uninformed as you might think. You would be sending in the original packaging just as we did with Janoshik, so your testing would be as unbiased as our own.

It's important to note that we are not the manufacturer of the medicines. Our priority is to provide high-quality products, and these manufacturers are typically very large, often FDA or similarly approved. They conduct testing at the manufacturing stage.

Regarding Modafinil tests, we have never encountered any issues with the brands we offer. They are of pharmaceutical grade.

Oftentimes, people want to test the product because they have unrealistic expectations for it. They might expect it to have certain effects that it doesn't, perhaps comparing it to ADHD medications, caffeine, or other stimulants, when it is actually different.

We are not opposed to testing, but we do have to consider that it can be quite costly.

While we won't cover the cost of testing, you are welcome to proceed with it. However, I should mention that if the testing yields unfavorable results, we will reimburse you. On the other hand, if it's good, we won't take any action, as we are already very confident in the product's quality.

PCT.ZONE
Website: https://pct.zone
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[PCT4ME]

Hmmm… so if Finasteride only prevents testosterone from reducing into DHT, yet DHT derived steroids such as Primo, Mast, Proviron, etc increase DHT by lowering SHBG levels, then Finasteride, as I said, would not prevent hair loss from DHT derived steroids such as Primo.

Thanks for confirming what I said but just in a condescending way.

The rest of what you said is spot on though and should be common knowledge for anyone afraid of losing their hair. I’ve been on 1mg Fin for 3 years with topical Fin and Min, plus once weekly derma rolling and Primo still nuked my shit.

Also, it should be mentioned that once you start taking Fin, Nandrolone is off the table as it reduces to DHN and combining it with Fin will actually accelerate hair loss as it stops the conversion process.

The mechanism of increased DHT with Primo and Mast use is by lowering SHBG, less testosterone is bound, leaving more free to be converted by 5AR.

So all things being equal, DHT will go higher with Primo, but a 5AR inhibitor should be reducing conversion so much, typically by 90%, that the rise in DHT levels will be of minimal impact. Also, DHT requires time to "kill" once bound at the follicle. Hair growth stem cells will go into a "stunned" phase first, as inflammatory processes damage the cells(hopefully slowed by keto shampoo). Assuming modified DHT based steroid use is intermittent, and particularly if minoxidil is used regularly so the follicle isn't weak and susceptible to injury, recovery is likely.

I wish every young guy with a full head of thick hair understood how easy it is to maintain it for a lifetime. The biggest obstacle is getting over the irrational Post Finasteride Syndrome fear, and just start at a low level, like .25mg, if no symptoms, a near impossibility at that level, titrate up to .50, then 1mg if no sides. Otherwise go back down. Understand if you get sides you've just crashed your DHT level and it'll take a few weeks to recover. You're not "injured for life" unless you convince yourself you are and think yourself into psychogenic symptoms.

 

[The_Mentalorian]

The mechanism of increased DHT with Primo and Mast use is by lowering SHBG, less testosterone is bound, leaving more free to be converted by 5AR.

So all things being equal, DHT will go higher with Primo, but a 5AR inhibitor should be reducing conversion so much, typically by 90%, that the rise in DHT levels will be of minimal impact. Also, DHT requires time to "kill" once bound at the follicle. Hair growth stem cells will go into a "stunned" phase first, as inflammatory processes damage the cells(hopefully slowed by keto shampoo). Assuming modified DHT based steroid use is intermittent, and particularly if minoxidil is used regularly so the follicle isn't weak and susceptible to injury, recovery is likely.

I wish every young guy with a full head of thick hair understood how easy it is to maintain it for a lifetime. The biggest obstacle is getting over the irrational Post Finasteride Syndrome fear, and just start at a low level, like .25mg, if no symptoms, a near impossibility at that level, titrate up to .50, then 1mg if no sides. Otherwise go back down. Understand if you get sides you've just crashed your DHT level and it'll take a few weeks to recover. You're not "injured for life" unless you convince yourself you are and think yourself into psychogenic symptoms.

Good shit man, thanks for the explanation

 

[Flex_Luger]

Dumb question, if my order includes items from separate warehouses I'll receive multiple shipments instead of of one correct? Just wasn't sure

 

[PCT.ZONE]

Dumb question, if my order includes items from separate warehouses I'll receive multiple shipments instead of of one correct? Just wasn't sure

It is confirmed that you will receive one parcel from within the US and one parcel from India.

 

[Flex_Luger]

@PCT.ZONE I appreciate it! You guys have been great.

Products I've tried have saved me from needing expensive big farm products and I can't thank you guys enough.

 

[feijao]

Any recommendations on Zone's domestic offerings that might help with sciatic pain?

Thank you.

 

[IronCody]

just got touchdown from india , first time orderer, placed 2 orders, got everything in about 2-3 weeks. very happy customer

 

[GPurePro]

Cotr

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t their moda products all from India pharma companies? I’d still be interested in blind testing of that product. Would be awesome to see the results.

Would you want to split it or try to get group test going?

 

[GPurePro]

So what are you suggesting? Young healthy men with full heads of hair should start taking a quarter milligram of fin daily and continue on until their death?

The mechanism of increased DHT with Primo and Mast use is by lowering SHBG, less testosterone is bound, leaving more free to be converted by 5AR.

So all things being equal, DHT will go higher with Primo, but a 5AR inhibitor should be reducing conversion so much, typically by 90%, that the rise in DHT levels will be of minimal impact. Also, DHT requires time to "kill" once bound at the follicle. Hair growth stem cells will go into a "stunned" phase first, as inflammatory processes damage the cells(hopefully slowed by keto shampoo). Assuming modified DHT based steroid use is intermittent, and particularly if minoxidil is used regularly so the follicle isn't weak and susceptible to injury, recovery is likely.

I wish every young guy with a full head of thick hair understood how easy it is to maintain it for a lifetime. The biggest obstacle is getting over the irrational Post Finasteride Syndrome fear, and just start at a low level, like .25mg, if no symptoms, a near impossibility at that level, titrate up to .50, then 1mg if no sides. Otherwise go back down. Understand if you get sides you've just crashed your DHT level and it'll take a few weeks to recover. You're not "injured for life" unless you convince yourself you are and think yourself into psychogenic symptoms.