[SOURCE] MATRIX - OPEN MCT/GSO

[BBBG]

I’d wait to order until Matrix has a presence here again. See if he cares.

 

[SwollieGuacamole]

I’d wait to order until Matrix has a presence here again. See if he cares.

Man’s been super quiet.

 

[SquattingInTheCurlRack]

Man’s been super quiet.

@BBBG broke out the big font too. You can't hide @Matrix! You gettin' tarriffed!

 

[Lord]

I’m sure @Matrix is a very efficacious ugl working hard to bring you all high quality anabolics and peptides .

 

[BBBG]

I’m sure @Matrix is a very efficacious ugl working hard to bring you all high quality anabolics and peptides .

Nope. It’s bullshit. No other UGL “sterilizes” their vials this way:

“We'll be doing all washing and sterilizing.
- Wash vials in soapy water
- 70% Isopropyl Alcohol bath
- Deionized Water rinse
- 250f 30min”

 

[dick_starbuck]

I’m sure @Matrix is a very efficacious ugl working hard to bring you all high quality anabolics and peptides .

Well that really just doesn't seem to be true.

 

[JayTeeLif]

Man’s been super quiet.

He’s a lucky dude, has amazing reps like The Lord himself repping his brand for him now. No need to waste his time on regular customers. Influencer marketing at its best

 

[Lord]

Well that really just doesn't seem to be true.

Why do u deem it not true . Perhaps they are silent trying to ensure the previous issues are resolved and making sure future endeavors are even better .

 

[Lord]

He’s a lucky dude, has amazing reps like The Lord himself repping his brand for him now. No need to waste his time on regular customers. Influencer marketing at its best

I’m sure he will get to
You guys .

 

[Lord]

I am curious has anyone besides me and @RavenKnight have any feedback or purchased recent batches from @Matrix ?

 

[BBBG]

Any current testing?

Nope

Any forum presence?

Nope

Any paying customers with reviews?

Nope

Any shill?

Nope…. Oh wait. YEP!

 

[dick_starbuck]

Why do u deem it not true . Perhaps they are silent trying to ensure the previous issues are resolved and making sure future endeavors are even better .

If this was a restaurant who failed a health inspector test, you wouldn't eat there. Everyone has effective gear on this forum. They all work the same. The thing that differentiates them is TRANSPARENCY, CUSTOMER SERVICE, and CLEANLINESS. I'm totally not going to pin gear that might be contaminated. Or was sterilized in someone's home oven.

 

[Lord]

If this was a restaurant who failed a health inspector test, you wouldn't eat there. Everyone has effective gear on this forum. They all work the same. The thing that differentiates them is TRANSPARENCY, CUSTOMER SERVICE, and CLEANLINESS. I'm totally not going to pin gear that might be contaminated. Or was sterilized in someone's home oven.

Valid point . I understand, but originally everyone loved @Matrix gear when he opened initially. So
It’s not the effectiveness or quality . But however the floaters . That’s not good . But they say they have produced a resolution for it .

 

[BBBG]

But they say they have produced a resolution for it .

I would say the same thing. Of course.

 

[calist181]

I'm confused, should the source not have sterilized the vials? I'm not a brewer but if the vials he was getting were questionable, I would throw them out and still sterilize any future vials for peace of mind.

 

[BBBG]

I'm confused, should the source not have sterilized the vials? I'm not a brewer but if the vials he was getting were questionable, I would throw them out and still sterilize any future vials for peace of mind.

Cmon buddy. His method of fixing the problem by sterilizing the vials that way… is retarded

 

[mmaphdmba]

Cmon buddy. His method of fixing the problem by sterilizing the vials that way… is retarded

Out of curiosity, what would you recommend instead?

 

[readalot]

Importance of Clean Glass Containers and Stoppers for Pharmaceutical

FDA has published guidance for industry to assure patient safety public that glass containers such as vials, beakers and rubber stoppers be clean.

princesterilization.com

https://www.dwk.com/technical/sterilisation-of-glass-containers-vials

He didn't specify if steam or dry heat. If steam then final step ok.

Either way could work...

"Recommended autoclave cycles are 121°C @ 15 psi for 20 minutes. Closures should be left loose on the containers. Proper care must be given when venting back to atmosphere or there may be damage to the containers.

Dry heat sterilisation can be achieved at a temperature of 160°C for 2 to 3 hours, but glass containers are capable of withstanding sterilization temperatures up to 500°C without noticeable degradation of the glass. Repeated dry heat sterilization of containers containing a fair amount of moisture may be susceptible to glass flaking."

Proper procedure calls for last rinse to be with USP water for injection.

 

[BBBG]

Out of curiosity, what would you recommend instead?

Am autoclave would be a good start. Pressure is as important as heat.

 

[mmaphdmba]

Am autoclave would be a good start. Pressure is as important as heat.

That was my first thought, but was also curious if the vials used can handle the heat/temp. Plus smaller autoclaves won't handle a ton of vials at once either, and if they're filling 500 vials it would be multiple runs.