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[DieselXT]

Sometimes it's lower on Supreme. It seems to be quite random, the same raws/APIs are used. Dimer is such a nebulous topic that I don't think anyone could give you a real answer. Jano himself has also admitted that anything very low dimer (I forget the exact figure he gave) is within the margin of error threshold to where it could ostensibly test as zero dimer with his equipment, if re-tested. We saw this with Deluxe C, if I recall correctly.

I also do want to say you were the first HGH I ever tried and from my results of the serum done on the supreme ive gone back and bought into deluxes as you know and have helped me on my questions lol. Those guys on PM definitely shill TP. 2 bad labs vs what another 20 good ones? And that dude still was over 20 which @Ruger has told me is a good number!

 

[rastaman69]

Why would deluxe have less dimer than supreme? Isnt it the same HGH just more ius per vial? Or does the quality change? But even then supreme is more expensive than deluxe.

Supreme is actually cheaper - per iu.

 

[parksisme]

I will say I ran a full kit of the Deluxe from K4L that was on point. No real negative sides to speak of….moved to a Supreme batch B I believe that has caused a drastic change in water retention. Even as low as 2IU. No doubts it’s legit but the difference between batches has been a bit disappointing. I’ve only made it through I think about half the kit….changed my sodium intake, water intake, carb intake. Stopping and starting back up and the same thing. Not enough to prevent me from ordering from them but I found it odd. The Deluxe kit I had was just as comparable to the Opti grey tops I was previously running though! Probably just stick with those from now on.

i am actually in the same boat as this. My friend and I both went in on an order. I got the deluxe and he got supreme B. I am not cycling, so just using hgh solo. At 3iu I am totally fine, not cts or water retention. However my friend who is on cycle (250mg test, 100mg primo) had to stop hgh at 3iu as his hands were so numb from cts he was dropping things and couldnt sleep, and water retention was terrible. he tried splitting dose, tried different times of day, took a week off and then backed down to 2iu but blew up again.

He threw in the towel and gave me his remaining. I have not tried them yet out of fear. I have 2 more months of my deluxe left before I try the supreme b's. I am at work right now so I cannot say what Deluxe I have. I just know that I ordered the deluxe because at the time the dimer was lower than the supreme B

 

[mickfinesse]

Anecdotal experience here, I've been running Supreme the last 4 months in ranges from 2-5 iu and have had zero issues with water retention and cts on the lower end and only very slight hand tingling and water retention on the 4-5 iu end.

Interesting to see people having issues with the Supreme batches.

 

[mmaphdmba]

I ran up to 10iu, zero retention, no midday sleepiness, no hand tingling, etc. Interesting to see how it affects others differently

 

[bjjgear]

Exact same here. 10 IU Supreme A for months with zero sides.

4 IU of Serostim makes me watery though.

I ran up to 10iu, zero retention, no midday sleepiness, no hand tingling, etc. Interesting to see how it affects others differently

 

[UnCutOils]

Been on his product since end of Oct I believe maybe early November everything from Standard, Deluxe, to Supreme and only time I had any sides was n the beginning trying to move to fast when increasing my dosage. Been on strictly Supremes for i think around 4 months at 6iu and only side is it's easier to stay lean, good sleep, and fuller looking muscles

 

[bradyfan127]

Been on his product since end of Oct I believe maybe early November everything from Standard, Deluxe, to Supreme and only time I had any sides was n the beginning trying to move to fast when increasing my dosage. Been on strictly Supremes for i think around 4 months at 6iu and only side is it's easier to stay lean, good sleep, and fuller looking muscles

This may seem a bit much to believe but since starting back on GH in late January, I've yet to have one side effect.

I'm not holding water or CTS or numbing/tingling of the hands. No midday exhaustion. And I inject early morning. I'm not sure if using a peptide combination helps that I.use throughout the week (NAD+, GHK-CU, Tirzepatide, MOTC-s). I've got a ton of TB/BPC I hoard just in case of injury or pain previous surgeries.

But honestly zero issues. My sleep is phenomenal, skin has greatly improved… I feel better than ever. It's insane how from one person to person it is different. Maybe I'm lucky.

 

[jackmeoff2]

Do you still sell bpc 157 in individual vials? Website only shows it in kits.

 

[Beandconquer]

This may seem a bit much to believe but since starting back on GH in late January, I've yet to have one side effect.

I'm not holding water or CTS or numbing/tingling of the hands. No midday exhaustion. And I inject early morning. I'm not sure if using a peptide combination helps that I.use throughout the week (NAD+, GHK-CU, Tirzepatide, MOTC-s). I've got a ton of TB/BPC I hoard just in case of injury or pain previous surgeries.

But honestly zero issues. My sleep is phenomenal, skin has greatly improved… I feel better than ever. It's insane how from one person to person it is different. Maybe I'm lucky.

I only ever had side effects during my first month or two. T

 

[Flex_Luger]

Any sales planned for 4th of July? Been thinking about picking up a few supplies but figured I'd check to see if I should wait

 

[kits4less]

Do you still sell bpc 157 in individual vials? Website only shows it in kits.

Only in kits at the moment, we have been prioritizing keeping the kits in stock as they have been moving like candy!

Any sales planned for 4th of July? Been thinking about picking up a few supplies but figured I'd check to see if I should wait

If you plan on ordering HGH, wait. ;-)

 

[kits4less]

Those guys on PM definitely shill TP. 2 bad labs vs what another 20 good ones? And that dude still was over 20 which @Ruger has told me is a good number!

It's like trying to debate flat earthers on there lol. As if the early 2000s porn website vibes weren't bad enough.

 

[UnCutOils]

This may seem a bit much to believe but since starting back on GH in late January, I've yet to have one side effect.

I'm not holding water or CTS or numbing/tingling of the hands. No midday exhaustion. And I inject early morning. I'm not sure if using a peptide combination helps that I.use throughout the week (NAD+, GHK-CU, Tirzepatide, MOTC-s). I've got a ton of TB/BPC I hoard just in case of injury or pain previous surgeries.

But honestly zero issues. My sleep is phenomenal, skin has greatly improved… I feel better than ever. It's insane how from one person to person it is different. Maybe I'm lucky.

That's awesome, and I agree the human body is a amazing thing that's for sure.. The difference in response from person to person always has amazed me fr, even in lifting my bench routine consisting of lowish weight but slow high rep sets that works great for me might not do shit for u like ur 5 set of x many with heavy weight.. Now, tell me more about this NAD+.. lol, fr id appreciate any shares knowledge my brother

 

[BBBG]

That's awesome, and I agree the human body is a amazing thing that's for sure.. The difference in response from person to person always has amazed me fr, even in lifting my bench routine consisting of lowish weight but slow high rep sets that works great for me might not do shit for u like ur 5 set of x many with heavy weight.. Now, tell me more about this NAD+.. lol, fr id appreciate any shares knowledge my brother

Lifting slow?

 

[The_Mentalorian]

Lifting slow?

He probably means utilizing Time Under Tension or timing his eccentric and concentric contractions

 

[BBBG]

He probably means utilizing Time Under Tension or timing his eccentric and concentric contractions

We can’t argue this here in Kitties thread, for respect for Kits4Less but…

Time Under Tension has already been eliminated from hypertrophy.

For slow eccentrics to be worthwhile, you need a spotter to help lift the concentric since the load needs to be greater on the eccentric than the concentric (your maximum concentric rep is only about 80% of what you can handle on the eccentric).

Data also shows that performing a concentric rep slow has zero additional benefit compared to performing a normal concentric rep. In fact, performing a more explosive, accelerated concentric with a lighter weight has more benefit than a deliberately slow concentric.

What works for him, isn’t supported by science. If we want to discuss, we can start a separate thread to fight it out discuss.

 

[intensevolume]

We can’t argue this here in Kitties thread, for respect for Kits4Less but…

Time Under Tension has already been eliminated from hypertrophy.

For slow eccentrics to be worthwhile, you need a spotter to help lift the concentric since the load needs to be greater on the eccentric than the concentric (your maximum concentric rep is only about 80% of what you can handle on the eccentric).

Data also shows that performing a concentric rep slow has zero additional benefit compared to performing a normal concentric rep. In fact, performing a more explosive, accelerated concentric with a lighter weight has more benefit than a deliberately slow concentric.

What works for him, isn’t supported by science. If we want to discuss, we can start a separate thread to fight it out discuss.

You mean to tell me our muscles don't comprehend time??? Next you're going to tell me that they don't have a memory because they don't have a brain...
Just joking around I couldn't resist. I don't want to side track the thread

 

[BBBG]

You mean to tell me our muscles don't comprehend time??? Next you're going to tell me that they don't have a memory because they don't have a brain...
Just joking around I couldn't resist. I don't want to side track the thread

Well duh, they have a memory. Thats why you need to “shock” them every once in a while. Everyone knows the real secret to gainzzz is switching the exercises up to “surprise” the muscles into growing. Bruh.

 

[UnCutOils]

Lifting slow?

Well yeah.. By slow I mean actually controlling the weight bringing it down touching the chest I do so leaving it there fora second or two which takes away the momentum and leaves me relying on nothing but the push of the excercise.. Not breaking the weight, dropping it on ur chest and using that momentum to bounce/make lift easier or lifting ur ass 3 inches off the bench etc.. But ur right we should probably all do the same excercise/routine.. Poor thing, did someone get bullied at the gym this morning? Fuckin bullies, just keep having ur mom call PF an I'm sure they will get someone to handle it eventually