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[T&H]

How dare you use logic and reasoning to come to such a mind blowing conclusion? Found the Kits4Less shill alt account. /s

In all seriousness, I really hope that user actually had the best interests of the community at heart when telling his cautionary tale. There can be a fine line between trying to adequately vet a source for the greater good of our community, and trying to stir up controversy for the sake of entertainment. I don't know this individual so I cannot (and should not) begin to try and speculate one way or the other. It's just been my observation that on some boards you'll come across what appears to be a mix of both.

I believe his intentions were good, just hastily saw what could be red flags if everything he said were true. But you said you just went public.

Gonna be interesting to see some of the comments on meso when you post your official source thread. Some guys there shouldn't be trying to vet a source, I'll leave it at that.

You passed the best vetter I know, BBBG, pretty easily. Because you came prepared, more prepared than the majority of sources ever do. Time will tell if you are worth giving business.

Let's see how you handle your first customers in regards to TA, shipping, and customer service communication and issues. I already have a few suppliers, but will definitely eye your thread. Good luck.

 

[kits4less]

I believe his intentions were good, just hastily saw what could be red flags if everything he said were true. But you said you just went public.

Gonna be interesting to see some of the comments on meso when you post your official source thread. Some guys there shouldn't be trying to vet a source, I'll leave it at that.

You passed the best vetter I know, BBBG, pretty easily. Because you came prepared, more prepared than the majority of sources ever do. Time will tell if you are worth giving business.

Let's see how you handle your first customers in regards to TA, shipping, and customer service communication and issues. I already have a few suppliers, but will definitely eye your thread. Good luck.

BBBG is quite the character haha. It makes shooting the shit on UGBB pretty interesting. Happy to hear you think we came well prepared.

I appreciate your professionalism on all the boards I've seen you on, as well as all of your advice & kind words. We will do our best to live up to (and hopefully even exceed) the standards of this community.

Gonna be interesting to see some of the comments on meso when you post your official source thread. Some guys there shouldn't be trying to vet a source, I'll leave it at that.

Hopefully the collagen synthesis from all these generics has thickened our skin enough to prepare us. lol

 

[Badguy11]

any chance you are stocking up on tirzepatide??

 

[kits4less]

any chance you are stocking up on tirzepatide??

If there is more interest we can definitely stock it for a competitive price. SST, please let us know

 

[T&H]

If there is more interest we can definitely stock it for a competitive price. SST, please let us know

Many sources here carry it now, there is always interest in this. Well either this and/or semaglutide. So if you can be competitive to the competition, you would be more of a one stop shop.

I'd consider it for sure, after looking around at current pricing.

 

[jumdumpster]

I dont know why new sources are given so much shit sometimes, I think new sources are almost less likely to have issues. They have much more to prove, whereas established sources can get away with some leeway once their reputation is good enough. One issue with a new source and they’re done. Ive ordered from a few brand new sources and its never been a bad experience, while I’ve ordered from established labs that gave me some wild gear before disbanding not too long after.

 

[Futuredadbod]

Did you read his thread on UGBB? He said they just went public for first time. How do you expect them to be publicly known online at all if this is the case. And popping up on multiple forums makes you suspicious, sounds to me like the guy is finally going public and trying to get as much business as possible.

Your reasoning to suspect this as a scam doesn't make sense based on what the guy said. Everyone should use caution ordering from sources, especially new ones. And the ban on meso had zero to do with being a scammer.

Yes I read it. Being public and private doesn't mean no one's ever heard of you across multiple forums. Plenty of people knew about Stanford when he was private.

I also never once said scam or accused him of anything. I simply pointed out inconsistencies I saw and the fact not one user on 3 forums has even heard his name.

I also never said their meso ban had anything to do with a scam or anyone accusing them of scamming. You're well read, I'm shocked you didn't read this thread before you replied.

I didn't accuse anyone of anything, insult anyone, or stir controversy for no reason. This is a harm reduction forum, I voiced my concerns and asked questions.

 

[Futuredadbod]

@kits4less you should try on meso again in the underground. Don't be intimated or give up. A few successful sources on there have made mistakes at first, everyone makes mistakes when they are new at something. Not a big thing.

You took constructive criticism well on all forums, and were active and present to answer questions. I think you'll do well on the forums.

Please know my intent was not to stir controversy or cause drama. Maybe I'm just extra cautious haha

 

[kits4less]

@kits4less you should try on meso again in the underground. Don't be intimated or give up. A few successful sources on there have made mistakes at first, everyone makes mistakes when they are new at something. Not a big thing.

You took constructive criticism well on all forums, and were active and present to answer questions. I think you'll do well on the forums.

Please know my intent was not to stir controversy or cause drama. Maybe I'm just extra cautious haha

We definitely plan to make it back on there at some point.

As you know it can be hard to read someone's intentions through a wall of text, that's why I didn't want to accuse you one way or the other. I appreciate you saying we took constructive criticism well. In any case, thank you for clearing up your intentions.

 

[kits4less]

Plenty of batch C is still in stock, however we already have batch D and should have test results for it next week. We decided to pull two samples from two separate kits from this batch, we are curious about the variance of purity/total mg within the same batch. We will probably do this for future batches as well. The lowest or "inferior" test result is what we will advertise as the purity for that batch.

Also, would anyone be interested in a "economy" batch of kits, closer to 10iu per vial instead of 12iu, and moderate dimer 2-3%? We would sell it at a flat rate $85 per kit regardless of quantity.

 

[MiloQuinn69]

Plenty of batch C is still in stock, however we already have batch D and should have test results for it next week. We decided to pull two samples from two separate kits from this batch, we are curious about the variance of purity/total mg within the same batch. We will probably do this for future batches as well. The lowest or "inferior" test result is what we will advertise as the purity for that batch.

Also, would anyone be interested in a "economy" batch of kits, closer to 10iu per vial instead of 12iu, and moderate dimer 2-3%? We would sell it at a flat rate $85 per kit regardless of quantity.

I would def be willing to log a kit for you of the economy if you’re willing to throw that offer out there. I’m log it and do blood work.

 

[kits4less]

PSA: Custom Generostim Boxes are back in stock. That being said, we still had some customers reach out with stealth concerns about the custom boxes. We realize most end users don't really care about them, it's more so something that resellers appreciate. Our initial plan was to include custom boxes by default, and give customers the option to get a plain box upon request. We are considering flipping that around and only providing custom boxes upon request (for no additional cost of course).

Instead of guessing what people prefer, or trying to gauge it by a handful of emails, I decided to make a poll:

Should custom boxes be provided upon request, or just by default? - Online Poll - StrawPoll

What's your opinion? Vote now: Provide custom boxes by default, ship with plain white boxes only when requested, Only provide them upon request, ship with plain white boxes by defau...

strawpoll.com

Feel free to vote and/or comment on this thread if you have anything to weigh in on the topic.

 

[T&H]

PSA: Custom Generostim Boxes are back in stock. That being said, we still had some customers reach out with stealth concerns about the custom boxes. We realize most end users don't really care about them, it's more so something that resellers appreciate. Our initial plan was to include custom boxes by default, and give customers the option to get a plain box upon request. We are considering flipping that around and only providing custom boxes upon request (for no additional cost of course).

Instead of guessing what people prefer, or trying to gauge it by a handful of emails, I decided to make a poll:

Should custom boxes be provided upon request, or just by default? - Online Poll - StrawPoll

What's your opinion? Vote now: Provide custom boxes by default, ship with plain white boxes only when requested, Only provide them upon request, ship with plain white boxes by defau...

strawpoll.com

Feel free to vote and/or comment on this thread if you have anything to weigh in on the topic.

Need to get with your website developer. Opti's site has a Dropdown option on his Greytops where buyers can select from 2 types of boxes.

 

[kits4less]

Need to get with your website developer. Opti's site has a Dropdown option on his Greytops where buyers can select from 2 types of boxes.

100% that will be implemented on our web shop which is being buillt. Along with the tiered pricing being applied automatically.

Another PSA: We've gotten a lot of emails about the "Economy Batch" of kits so we will indeed be selling them. We are just waiting on Jano to update the reports on that batch before we make it official and update our thread/website. It's a small batch of <200 kits, but if it sells through pretty quickly we can re-up on them.

Again, these will be $85 flat price per kit (no multi kit discounts)

Sneak Peak (2 random samples pulled):

 

[lifter6973]

Do they? At least for tb and bpc other ugls are offering double the mgs for same price or cheaper.

my bad, I stand corrected. I guess I haven't price compared in a while.

 

[lifter6973]

BBBG is quite the character haha. It makes shooting the shit on UGBB pretty interesting. Happy to hear you think we came well prepared.

I appreciate your professionalism on all the boards I've seen you on, as well as all of your advice & kind words. We will do our best to live up to (and hopefully even exceed) the standards of this community.


Hopefully the collagen synthesis from all these generics has thickened our skin enough to prepare us. lol

BBBG is a hypocrite idiot scheming scumbag who drops and promotes for another lab. He actually called out members for questioning that lab and called out members for being cautious when someone got a controlled delivery. Said members were idiots if they thought there was any heat or any need to worry. This is also a guy that said only sources who have no criminal records should be used because they hold down real jobs and only source because they care so much. He couldn't be more see through if he tried IMO. Apparently he doesn't consider DUIs a part of a criminal record either.

He really cares about money, I mean the members, lol.

 

[Bando]

If there is more interest we can definitely stock it for a competitive price. SST, please let us know

2 products that should sell like hot cakes in the now and near future are Tirzepatide and Retatrutide. If you guys could stock those at good prices I believe they will sell for sure.

 

[lifter6973]

2 products that should sell like hot cakes in the now and near future are Tirzepatide and Retatrutide. If you guys could stock those at good prices I believe they will sell for sure.

If that stuff works, get it while you can. The pharm companies are getting pissed at all the places that are selling at a much lower price and filing legal motions, etc..
Crazy thing is stuff like semaglutide (Wegovy and Ozempic) is in low supply right now because Novo Nordisc didn't anticipate the high demand. You would have a hard time getting a starter script for either of those until spring 2024 going the legit route.

 

[jackmeoff2]

If that stuff works, get it while you can. The pharm companies are getting pissed at all the places that are selling at a much lower price and filing legal motions, etc..
Crazy thing is stuff like semaglutide (Wegovy and Ozempic) is in low supply right now because Novo Nordisc didn't anticipate the high demand. You would have a hard time getting a starter script for either of those until spring 2024 going the legit route.

It’s astounding that the bodybuilding community likes semaglutide. Studies conclusively show it causes loss of lean mass and at the crux of it, you can lose weight just as fast without the drug. Since when are bodybuilders so concerned with being hungry?

Totally anecdotal but a friend of mine ran it in his last prep and he came out looking totally flat.

 

[lifter6973]

It’s astounding that the bodybuilding community likes semaglutide. Studies conclusively show it causes loss of lean mass and at the crux of it, you can lose weight just as fast without the drug. Since when are bodybuilders so concerned with being hungry?

Totally anecdotal but a friend of mine ran it in his last prep and he came out looking totally flat.

I agree. Sema works partially because if you eat incorrectly you will have major digestive issues all tied to the drug causing the stomach to delay emptying. If you have the willpower to eat correctly, you absolutely will get the same results without the drug.
Most BBs I see want to put on weight eating healthy foods, so I agree this seems counterintuitive. I will say I did not know about loss of lean muscle mass. This is something I need to look into. I also agree with you that these type of drugs seem to be very popular in the BB community right now.
My doc wants to put my wife on ozempic because of her A1C. She has been hesitant to take his advice. She is not in the BB lifestyle though. Still, there are more and more negative stories popping up on glp receptor agonists.