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Hey ! I'm an 18 year old that has been training for over a year, seriously training since June of last year. Pump the brakes on the replies, guys. I'm not hopping on gear right now. I've been making really fast gains, that haven't slowed down... at all really. If anything, shit went wayyy up since September I wanna say. Been trying to eat a fuck ton, started using creatine and whatnot, and I've put on a decent amount of muscle, without much fat gain. This is where the temptations are coming in... My new training partner is a natty men's physique competitor and he said that I'm "Obviously gifted" (I'm not strong or anything, he just means propensity to put on muscle, and insertions I'm assuming). Now, this isn't to inflate my ego, please try to see where I'm going with this.

I see my insertions and I just imagine what I'd look like if I hopped on, on the chance that I responded well.... I don't think I'd look incredible or anything, but definitely good enough to the point where any more improvements wouldn't yield results in the "real world" (how I look to normal people, and attract women) if you know what I mean.

I spend a great deal of my free time researching about anabolics, and even took Anatomy and Physiology in my senior year to understand a lot of the lingo that goes on in research papers, and the mechanisms that can be leveraged by hormone use. I estimate that in around a year, I'll have a decent amount of knowledge when it comes to anabolics. I already have a general idea of what to do for a first cycle (which is really easy to figure out), and know some basic cycles for growth phases and cutting and whatnot.

While I keep growing steadily (just recently hit 160lbs lean at around 6'0 or 5'11), the thought of what I'd look like on gear is almost all consuming to me. Don't get me wrong, I study hard, and at the moment, am a high honors student. I also own a clothing brand and have worked (designed) for a lot of big names in fashion. I'm not a bum or a degenerate narcissist or anything. It's just that I keep feeling smaller and smaller.. I recently found this website through researching Janoshik Analytical, researching the labs that tested through them, which led me here. I now have several sources at my disposal.

Every cell in my brain is telling me to see how far I can go natty until I hit a near insurmountable plateau, which is when hormone intervention would maybe start to make sense.. It's only logical. But the deep urge, driven by my darker, reckless self is increasingly difficult to resist.

There is no point to this post. Just looking to talk to people about this who actually use anabolics. I am tired and lethargic a lot of the time. While I am quite accomplished overall, I still feel like a piece of shit a lot too. Does using testosterone help with this? Do you feel better about yourself? Let's talk!
 

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18 and 6’0 ft at 160lb I wouldn’t touch any gear yet. Simply because you don’t need it, the way you’ve been making progress. A lot of older vets who still compete with 220+lb physiques regret starting gear in their 20s now imagine in your teens, body probably still developing hormonally and physically. Younger guys usually have better luck recovering, but there’s always the possibility of shutting yourself down and being on TRT that young or not being able to have kids, which is the boat a lot of us are on. I’m not even 30 and I can’t get the wife pregnant anymore. When we had our 1st kid and I wasn’t on gear it took me maybe a week of trying to knock her up, to put it into perspective. Yes, could do a Hcg/hmg protocol for months and perhaps be able to pull it off again, but it’s one of those things. If you’re predisposed to end up bald later in life, starting gear now, you’ll be bald in your early 20s, if you develop gyno there goes your physique. This coming from someone who had gyno removal surgery. A lot of things to think about, aside from the elevated blood pressure, thrown off lipids etc. All for some gains you’re making anyway? Fully healthy and natural, no need to jab anything, no need to spend money on anything other than your normal sups, even though money doesn’t seem an issue, still. 160lb at your height and age, you got a lot more natural growth in you. Get closer to that growth then you decide. Right now I wouldn’t do it. You’re making progress.

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Forgot about the lethargy part and Testosterone. Testosterone doesn’t help with lethargy unless its cause is very low Test levels. I’d imagine at your age and activity level, the way you’re making gains, that your lethargy is not due to low T. Can always get bloodwork for health and simply to have better knowledge of your body and know for sure. Bad diet can cause lethargy, a bodybuilding style diet without proper supplements such as vitamins fish oils etc could also be a cause of lethargy, not enough sleep, too much workload/activity can burn you out making you feel lethargic, highly caffeinated drinks such ass energy drinks etc can make you lethargic, high/very low estrogen. Assess the nutrition/supplements part, caffeinated drinks and go from there. Also get bloodwork and see actual numbers.
 
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18, 6 foot and 160? no go. gonna be the bad guy and say you shouldn't. Theres so many reasons not to.
I was 20, 6'3, and 190 when I did my first cycle. I did 500mg test, and 50mg dbol. Nothing prepares you mentally for some of the side effects, because you're not even grown mentally. you may think you are mentally developed but at 25 I can tell you for a fact that next year you will be different, the next, different and so on. You dont even begin to start understanding yourself and getting into a groove until 24/25. you sound like a younger me talking, im 25 now and literally did the same shit you did. I completely regret it. I thought I did everything right but my hormones were not back to normal for, probably years. I also now have a smaller bladder and have to get out of bed 2-3 times every night because I keep having to piss and cant get it all out. Sounds amazing right? Stay the fuck off this website and go grow for another 4-5 years. But of course if you're anything like me, fuck me i dont know shit and you'll probably cycle anyways, but you'll see.

To add to the users comment above about balding, my hair is also thinning noticeably, stated at 24 after having not touched a compound for years.
But you're so ready because you took an anatomy class and you own a clothing brand, and totally not a bum. You will be immune to that.
 
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Bump, I agree with the above. Don’t do it for the vine. You still haven’t reached your maximum potential. What’s your diet like? That can usually dictate lethargy.

Again don’t touch gear this young as my colleagues said. Cheers!
 
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