HGH - At what dosage is berberine/metformin required?

[savagedude2300]

I am new to HGH and not clear yet on exactly why berberine and metformin are used. I think it is to manage blood gasses and blood sugar?

At what dosage of HGH is it necessary to start taking berberine or metformin? Is it dependent on some value I can get checked with blood work?

I was thinking of running a cycle of HGH increasing from 4IU up to 8IU per day. Will I need to add in either berberine or metformin?

 

[Lee_48157]

I don’t think anyone will be able to accurately answer that off the information you provided.

To answer the first part of your question yes it’s to mitigate the effects of higher blood glucose people sometimes see with hgh useage. However metformin has been shown to lower IGF levels which may be counterproductive to even taking it at a higher dose.

Some people do not need to use these, and some people do. What I would do
Is buy yourself a blood glucose reader do a fasted reading of your BG now (wait about 20 mins after waking and drink some water before) everyday for around a week. Then keep that information, compare it with the readings you get as you dose the GH to see if your getting elevated BG or not. Don’t go day to day use several days and average them out to get a better idea of where you’re at.

 

[Livingcanvas]

It's used to keep up insulin sensitivity.
I use berberine in conjunction with high intake of carbs while taking hgh. When Im on a cut and very low carb, but still taking hgh, I don't waste my berberine. I don't take metformin because berberine is shown to work better or as well, and there's a chance for stomach issues with metformin. I use Suppressor Max from 1st detachment, as it has other ingredients that make the uptake of berberine best on the market

 

[savagedude2300]

Thank you for the responses. I will pick up a blood glucose reader and go from there.

 

[Ateam2024]

my bg is around 90-100 fasted im on test c and hgh should i incorporate some berberine in my supplements? its funny i can't get anything over 130 bg even after a meal? and my average bg is 112 a day according to the average given to me by multiple tests im confused and looking for advice tia

 

[AlexDavis43]

my bg is around 90-100 fasted im on test c and hgh should i incorporate some berberine in my supplements? its funny i can't get anything over 130 bg even after a meal? and my average bg is 112 a day according to the average given to me by multiple tests im confused and looking for advice tia

You seem pretty insulin sensitive and 100 fasting BG isn't bad on GH.

200 mg dihydroberberine a day wouldn't hurt, maybe to get those fasting numbers closer to 90 or less. There are studies showing a correlation between fasting blood glucose and cognitive measures. Here are some: 1 & 2.

 

[Darthgainz1]

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It's used to keep up insulin sensitivity.
I use berberine in conjunction with high intake of carbs while taking hgh. When Im on a cut and very low carb, but still taking hgh, I don't waste my berberine. I don't take metformin because berberine is shown to work better or as well, and there's a chance for stomach issues with metformin. I use Suppressor Max from 1st detachment, as it has other ingredients that make the uptake of berberine best on the market

Did you take berberine with every meal or did you do am/pm or what? What did your dosing schedule look like for it?

 

[bjjgear]

At 10IU I don't and have never needed it. Just depends on your own diet, training, overall health, etc etc.

 

[Livingcanvas]

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Did you take berberine with every meal or did you do am/pm or what? What did your dosing schedule look like for it?

Just the whole daily dose after my first meal

 

[mmaphd]

At 10IU I don't and have never needed it. Just depends on your own diet, training, overall health, etc etc.

Do you measure fasted bg in the morning?

 

[bjjgear]

Do you measure fasted bg in the morning?

The dawn effect always fucks my morning numbers so I always just do 2 hours postprandial (2 hours after I -start- eating) on my first meal of the day. It averages about 90 at 2 IU and 90 at 10 IU as well. The blood sugar thing has reached almost a mythical level and only applies to people who have trouble managing glucose to begin with.

 

[petefox]

I'm type-2 diabetic, my fasting glucose never goes over 96 on GH at 4iu.

I do tend to run Lantus off and on, that gets my bg down to 75. For berberine I'd take it with a high-carb meal, I tend to use GDAs so I dose it as they label it.

 

[Ateam2024]

My fasted bg has been 90-100 on 4 ius gh i just started taking dyhdroberbirine at night so hopefully that will help my "7 day average " is 92 fasted bg? Any suggestions?

 

[bjjgear]

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My fasted bg has been 90-100 on 4 ius gh i just started taking dyhdroberbirine at night so hopefully that will help my "7 day average " is 92 fasted bg? Any suggestions?

I wouldnt worry about those numbers

 

[Ateam2024]

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I wouldnt worry about those numbers

thats a relief i was getting concerned

 

[bjjgear]

thats a relief i was getting concerned

Just track it for a couple of weeks and ensure it doesn't climb. I recommend doing 2 hours post-prandial (2 hours after you BEGIN eating). Popping a berberine in the evening, especially on the days where you over-eat or do high carbs, is a good call.

 

[Lion]

At 10IU I don't and have never needed it. Just depends on your own diet, training, overall health, etc etc.

Are you taking 10iu in one dosage? Or splitting it throughout your day?

I just hopped on GH for the first time

 

[bjjgear]

2IU AM and 8IU before bed