First time injecting Test E -- currently on Dbol -- Any help appreciated :)

[thememerdream]

So I've been taking Dbol for the past 4 weeks at 50mg/day for the first 3 weeks and now 75mg/day for the last week. I ordered some Test E and plan on doing 500mg/week for a while and was wondering if there's any advice on how to start injecting.
I ordered some 25G/.75" needles and currently have Nolvadex and Arimistane in case of gyno/sides. I'm also taking TUDCA (for the dbol) and a generic "cycle support".

am I missing anything I should be doing other than eating/sleeping/training? should I plan on adding anything else to the Test or would it just be better to feel it out the first couple of weeks and see how my body responds? I'm planning on having bloodwork done right before I start the test and then every 4 weeks after.

 

[MikeAlstott]

Kind of confused on why you didn’t wait and start them both at the same time. May have been even better to add the D-Bol towards the end of the cycle to break through any plateau.

I would probably stop the D-Bol after 4-6 weeks. I’m kind of surprised your estrogen isn’t sky high. At least you have Aromasin and Nolvadex on hand. Make sure you don’t have any gyno forming.

If you are planning on PCTing after this cycle then make sure you have that lined up, otherwise the rest looks good to me.

For blood work, unless there is something majorly wrong, just get bloods ASAP, then bloods at least midway into the cycle, and then get more bloods done if you are PCTing or to dial in your cruise/see how your body is doing after it’s all said and done.

 

[thememerdream]

Thanks for the info. The reason I didn't start both at the same time was because I've never injected before and only recently kind of decided to try it out. I'm 31 and my labs have been pretty normal on the Dbol.

Current plan is to taper the Dbol and add the Test E in once I get it.

So I shouldn't go for 500mg/week though right away and you recommend just cruising at like 250mg/week? At least until I get bloods done to confirm the Test E is working and I've stabilized?

 

[imagepb]

Thanks for the info. The reason I didn't start both at the same time was because I've never injected before and only recently kind of decided to try it out. I'm 31 and my labs have been pretty normal on the Dbol.

Current plan is to taper the Dbol and add the Test E in once I get it.

So I shouldn't go for 500mg/week though right away and you recommend just cruising at like 250mg/week? At least until I get bloods done to confirm the Test E is working and I've stabilized?

Cruising is like 150-200. 250 is a blast for most people … granted everyone is different. Sometimes 250 mg/mL really is a replacement dose for some. However you’ll never know if you didn’t get bloods before you started. Or did you?

I wouldn’t ever do DBOL and 500mg of test. Just my opinion. Estrogen city my guy!

What’s your current E2 at? Are you getting a sensitive assay or the standard ECLI for E2? For men, always get the sensitive Assay. I would venture a guess if your DBOL is real, your E2 would be through the roof at that dose.

 

[thememerdream]

Cruising is like 150-200. 250 is a blast for most people … granted everyone is different. Sometimes 250 mg/mL really is a replacement dose for some. However you’ll never know if you didn’t get bloods before you started. Or did you?

I wouldn’t ever do DBOL and 500mg of test. Just my opinion. Estrogen city my guy!

What’s your current E2 at? Are you getting a sensitive assay or the standard ECLI for E2? For men, always get the sensitive Assay. I would venture a guess if your DBOL is real, your E2 would be through the roof at that dose.

I'm going to drop the dbol once I get the test, then take bloods probably one week after starting the test to see how I respond to. I've been doing 50mg arimistane a day for the AI and got the nolva on standby if gyno starts to develop. No real sides so far, slightly elevated BP at 134/79 and obviously my HDL is crashed with elevated LDL. Kind of hoping swapping to a "normal" dose of test will help my bloods get back to normal and then I'll adjust later on when I want to start bulking again. I've been on the dbol and I'm noticing lethargy four weeks in so I was just gonna swap to test to give my liver and organs a break. I'll probably drop the dose to 150-200mg like you recommend since I'm not trying to bulk up.

 

[GoodGod_MENT]

So I've been taking Dbol for the past 4 weeks at 50mg/day for the first 3 weeks and now 75mg/day for the last week. I ordered some Test E and plan on doing 500mg/week for a while and was wondering if there's any advice on how to start injecting.
I ordered some 25G/.75" needles and currently have Nolvadex and Arimistane in case of gyno/sides. I'm also taking TUDCA (for the dbol) and a generic "cycle support".

am I missing anything I should be doing other than eating/sleeping/training? should I plan on adding anything else to the Test or would it just be better to feel it out the first couple of weeks and see how my body responds? I'm planning on having bloodwork done right before I start the test and then every 4 weeks after.

Get some half inch insulin needles... Easiest injection sites are quads and delts...

You can use Primobolan to control estrogen instead of Nolva, Adex etc.

 

[JDLift]

1) Never run oral-only cycles again
2) If you find that you can't handle pinning, give up dreams of AAS altogether
3) Cycle Support products are just expensive multivitamins and don't do shit. TUDCA is also a money pit.
4) 3/4in needles work for some sites, don't expect to pin glute max with em though they'll never reach muscle. Find VG site.
5) Next time, ask questions BEFORE you start. Like, altogether. I know you don't get a next time because we have no rewind button in life, this one is just me illustrating to you that you could've saved some hassle and possible health risks of a Dbol-only run by asking us about/telling us about your plan in advance and getting information.

 

[Bully]

What's your body fat like? I use half inch spikes but I'm lean as fuck and can get away with it. Depending how thick you are you may get .75 to work. Massage gently after injection to make sure it disperses properly.

 

[Daddystightlittleslit]

I'd run the nolvadex 10mg per day, 20mg EOD just as preventative measure. 500mg test will be a nice addition.

Pull the plunger back and pressurize the vial when you go to draw. I'd pin twice per week but you'd probably be fine once per week. I don't aspirate.

I reccomend z tracking the quadriceps. Upper outter quadrant. Push down and pull the quad skin to the side, hold it there while you pin. This should prevent leakage. Google is your friend if you need better clarification.