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First injectable cycle

Juicenotrage

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Hi,

Just did a first anavar cycle only 25 mg / day and feel great but gains are indeed very mild. Looking forward to do my first injectable cycle that would look like :

Test E 400 mg x 16 weeks (once a week)
Anavar 25 mg 1 x day for the last 50 days
Arimidex x .5mg a day for the last 50days
PCT: Nolvadex 20 a day for 28 days

I'm 6'2, 24 years old, 235 pounds, ≈ 18% bf.

Appreciate all the help!

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Drop the armidex to .5 or even .25 mg eod. No need to totally suppress estrogen completely on a conservative dose like that. .25mg eod will do the trick of allowing just enough estrogen needed for its healthy functions.
 

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Is HCG still advised even if HCG is run through entire cycle. I know people debat to run HCG in PCT because HCG is also suppresive. Just looking at most advantageous way.
against running HCG through a cycle. You want it’s effects fresh post cycle get your test firing again then stepping aside for the Clomid and stand your testosterone production up again on all 4 wheels. Not saying I’m right but in my opinion not waiting post cycle for HCG is blowing all your tricks and not saving any for later. Kind of like showing all your cards early in a game. I know there’s benefits to running it on cycle. Just like using up all your cards early has benefits. But there’s far more to gain by being patient with HCG
 

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I would do 500 test/week; use synergy forge test e 500 so you’re not pushing 2ml every shot. 500mg every 5 days because the half-life is 5.2 days.

I would switch arimidex for aromasin as aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, not an estrogen receptor blocker (huge difference). One aromasin every 3-4 days.

Your PCT needs to include clomid with nolvadex AND HCG. Without it, you’re going to have a hard ass time recovering. Remember, don’t start your PCT until 15 days after your last injection; that’s when the half life’s will be almost broken down to the point where nolvadex, clomid and hcg can work effectively.

Hope it goes well.
They’re both aromatize inhibitors, although yes I agree asin is better.
 

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What If your from a shitty country.....say canada for example and cannot pay for private bloods can only get them ordered once a year for check up. How would you suggest a guy use AI's? Simply just go off of sides would be my best bet I'm assuming? But do you know any other tricks by chance?

Would appreciate the help.
I’d get bloods done 6 weeks into the cycle, to see where your estrogen is at. Depending on the number you can pretty much eyeball the dosage needed to bring it within range, just ask on here. Or if it’s within range then you’re all set, no need to use anything. Better to pull bloods midcycle if you can only pull them once, than before and be guessing. What if you take it and crash your estrogen? Now you feel like shit and have no way of seeing what’s going on because you already had your yearly bloodwork.
 

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I’d get bloods done 6 weeks into the cycle, to see where your estrogen is at. Depending on the number you can pretty much eyeball the dosage needed to bring it within range, just ask on here. Or if it’s within range then you’re all set, no need to use anything. Better to pull bloods midcycle if you can only pull them once, than before and be guessing. What if you take it and crash your estrogen? Now you feel like shit and have no way of seeing what’s going on because you already had your yearly bloodwork.
Well then I fucked up.... I just had bloods run to see how low my testosterone was to see if the doctor would prescribe, but I was literally just above the low end at 287(need to be below 275 where I'm at) so I guess I will go by sides. I'm not planning on taking any AIs unless my nips start burning(but will be taking a PCT so I'll have nolvadex on hand)

Thanks for the tip tho I appreciate it. Next time i do a cycle I'll get bloods at the 6 week mark.
 

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Well then I fucked up.... I just had bloods run to see how low my testosterone was to see if the doctor would prescribe, but I was literally just above the low end at 287(need to be below 275 where I'm at) so I guess I will go by sides. I'm not planning on taking any AIs unless my nips start burning(but will be taking a PCT so I'll have nolvadex on hand)

Thanks for the tip tho I appreciate it. Next time i do a cycle I'll get bloods at the 6 week mark.
You’ll be okay bro, it’s good to plan, not good to overthink. Many of us started gear without bloodwork before or during and simply went by sides and bro science, but then again why a lot of us developed gyno and shit lol pay attention to your nipples, if they get puffy, or very sensitive to the touch or straight up feel a lump attack it. I get hot flashes as well when it’s high. Half ass erections. Now if you do use Ai and all of a sudden you feel like shit, estrogen either way too low or crashed.
 

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You’ll be okay bro, it’s good to plan, not good to overthink. Many of us started gear without bloodwork before or during and simply went by sides and bro science, but then again why a lot of us developed gyno and shit lol pay attention to your nipples, if they get puffy, or very sensitive to the touch or straight up feel a lump attack it. I get hot flashes as well when it’s high. Half ass erections. Now if you do use Ai and all of a sudden you feel like shit, estrogen either way too low or crashed.
Thanks for the advice bro. Thought I was fuckd. I'm more worried about crashing my estrogen than it being to high. I'm on hgh right now and plan on adding anywhere from 250-400mg of test cyp (depending on how I feel at low dose I may increase). May run hcg along side it to for my nuts but I've been doing some research into hmg and some say that works better... I'm not sure tho lol.

Thanks for the tips ✌
 
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