First Cycle Questions

[floridaman]

Hey everyone, have a few questions about a first time cycle and ordering online. A little background first:
Age: 37
Height: 6’4
Weight: 200lbs
BF%: 16%
Test: 382 ng/dL
Free Test: 11.99 ng/dL

I want to do this right, so I’ll just do a test-e cycle by itself. Want to see what, if any, side effects I get, then after that I’ll probably cruise on a TRT dose until I’m ready to add something else into the mix.

Reasons for me doing this, not that I feel I need to give any, are simply that my libido is low. I obviously want to get in better shape as well, and get up to a lean 225lbs, so I’m hoping to achieve that as well. Feel like without this stuff I’ll just be fighting an uphill battle as I get older.

So, I’ve been looking around the lab reviews and my newbie questions are:
1. I’m a bit of a boomer, how hard is it to get BTC and send it? I saw some labs do Western Union, is that a better alternative if I don’t want to mess with BTC?
2. What’s a good dosage for someone my size and how many vials should I order?
3. For PCT, just incase I need to get off, is Nolvadex enough? Should I get some aromasin too?
4. Needles… I never injected before, read that you should use a 1inch needle, don’t know much else, where do you pick up needles and syringes? Someone told me Amazon, are there any preferred brands? Can you reuse needles or is that considered bad practice? I imagine reusing would probably lead to infections and I want to avoid that, but if you can keep needles sterile and reuse them, well, I dunno? How many uses before they go blunt I guess? I plan on pinning my quads and butt. How hard is it? Without sounding too much like a pussy, how painful is it? Or should be? Is pain a bad sign? And how deep are you supposed to go?

I know these questions were probably asked a million times before, so I want to apologize for that. I’m going to keep reading the forum in the meantime. Any other advice is greatly appreciated.

Edit:
Forgot to ask the most important question…
5. How safe is it to order by mail from a domestic source? Should I expect any trouble using a real address and name? Or is it always better to use a fake name?

 

[psauce]

1) You can buy bitcoin through PayPal and Cash App. It's insanely easy, and it'll take you all of 20 minutes to learn how to do.

2) If you are going to run a true cycle, the most common advice will be to start with something like 375 - 500 mg per week. I am on the side that says 375-400 is probably the best start. The reason for those numbers is that test enanthate and test cypionate are usually sold as 200 or 250 mg/mL, which makes 375 and 400 easy to dose. 500 mg is a number that's floated around for a really long time, and is neither too small to have an impact nor too big to seriously fuck you up before you figure out there's an issue. For some context, most men get to the top half of the normal reference range with ~125-150 mg per week. 375/400 puts you at over double, 500 puts you at over triple. The anabolic and androgenic effects scale with dose, but so do the side effects. Ultimately, it's up to you to decide what to do.

As for how much to order... do the math for the cycle length you want to run. It is somewhat smart to keep an extra vial or two around in the event you lose a vial, or if you need to go to a TRT-level dose if something pops up and you need time to figure out next steps or for a doctor's appointment.

3) PCT isn't my thing... I just go down to TRT-level doses. Someone else can probably help you better. But having an AI around is a good idea in case you experience severe gyno or something.

4) Never, ever reuse needles. You can buy needles and syringes from Amazon, and they're pretty damn cheap. Get a box of alcohol prep pads while you're shopping. Oils are thick and somewhat hard to get into the syringe, so I use a larger needle (smaller gauge) to get the oil in, then switch to a thinner needle (higher gauge) to inject. I haven been using 20g to draw the oil and 30g to inject for the last few months and that's working well for me. Depending on where you want to inject, 0.5 to 1 inch is fine. If you don't tense your muscle, it really doesn't hurt to inject.

5) Buying domestic is usually the safest and fastest, with the lowest shipping cost. Always use a real name and a real address.

You didn't ask, but two huge pieces of advice. The first is bloodwork... you have a hormone panel at least, which is great. If you don't have blood chemistry and a comprehensive metabolic panel, I would get that, too. I would also strongly suggest you inject *at least* every other day or M/W/F instead of once a week. This way, you don't get a huge spike of testosterone at any given time, which will reduce the side effects. It's a couple extra minutes per week, and a little bit of extra money up front for needles and syringes, but (for me) it means I don't need to run an aromatase inhibitor even at pretty high weekly dosages and my hematocrit never gets out of range. A third piece of advice that is much smaller, you might want to get test cypionate instead of test enanthate. There has been a problem in the underground community with noticeable discomfort from test enanthate for several months. The half lives are comparable and they're fairly indistinguishable, except for the frequency of post-injection pain.

Finally, be smart with sources. Pick someone who has tests and whose users post analysis and bloodwork. These are powerful drugs, and you wanna be sure that you are injecting what you think you are injecting -- both the compound and the dose.

 

[floridaman]

1) You can buy bitcoin through PayPal and Cash App. It's insanely easy, and it'll take you all of 20 minutes to learn how to do.

2) If you are going to run a true cycle, the most common advice will be to start with something like 375 - 500 mg per week. I am on the side that says 375-400 is probably the best start. The reason for those numbers is that test enanthate and test cypionate are usually sold as 200 or 250 mg/mL, which makes 375 and 400 easy to dose. 500 mg is a number that's floated around for a really long time, and is neither too small to have an impact nor too big to seriously fuck you up before you figure out there's an issue. For some context, most men get to the top half of the normal reference range with ~125-150 mg per week. 375/400 puts you at over double, 500 puts you at over triple. The anabolic and androgenic effects scale with dose, but so do the side effects. Ultimately, it's up to you to decide what to do.

As for how much to order... do the math for the cycle length you want to run. It is somewhat smart to keep an extra vial or two around in the event you lose a vial, or if you need to go to a TRT-level dose if something pops up and you need time to figure out next steps or for a doctor's appointment.

3) PCT isn't my thing... I just go down to TRT-level doses. Someone else can probably help you better. But having an AI around is a good idea in case you experience severe gyno or something.

4) Never, ever reuse needles. You can buy needles and syringes from Amazon, and they're pretty damn cheap. Get a box of alcohol prep pads while you're shopping. Oils are thick and somewhat hard to get into the syringe, so I use a larger needle (smaller gauge) to get the oil in, then switch to a thinner needle (higher gauge) to inject. I haven been using 20g to draw the oil and 30g to inject for the last few months and that's working well for me. Depending on where you want to inject, 0.5 to 1 inch is fine. If you don't tense your muscle, it really doesn't hurt to inject.

5) Buying domestic is usually the safest and fastest, with the lowest shipping cost. Always use a real name and a real address.

You didn't ask, but two huge pieces of advice. The first is bloodwork... you have a hormone panel at least, which is great. If you don't have blood chemistry and a comprehensive metabolic panel, I would get that, too. I would also strongly suggest you inject *at least* every other day or M/W/F instead of once a week. This way, you don't get a huge spike of testosterone at any given time, which will reduce the side effects. It's a couple extra minutes per week, and a little bit of extra money up front for needles and syringes, but (for me) it means I don't need to run an aromatase inhibitor even at pretty high weekly dosages and my hematocrit never gets out of range. A third piece of advice that is much smaller, you might want to get test cypionate instead of test enanthate. There has been a problem in the underground community with noticeable discomfort from test enanthate for several months. The half lives are comparable and they're fairly indistinguishable, except for the frequency of post-injection pain.

Finally, be smart with sources. Pick someone who has tests and whose users post analysis and bloodwork. These are powerful drugs, and you wanna be sure that you are injecting what you think you are injecting -- both the compound and the dose.

Hey, thanks for responding. Regarding your answers:
1. Does the forum have a comprehensive thread on this somewhere?
2. I'll probably go with 400 mg/mL and pin 3 times a week like you said. I was also reading around here and found a lot of people mentioning test-c is the way to go because e is a harsher oil. Would it be worth it to get some Dianabol too for a first time cycle? From my understanding, it's just an oral version of testosterone with a really low half-life, but it is toxic to the liver, and on that note, exactly how bad is it? Are we talking a full day's worth of drinking alcohol bad, or much worse?
5. Is there a specific reason for using a real name? Does using fake names set off alarms at the post office? And what are the odds of cops showing at your door? Do you just deny the package is yours?

And what are the preferred sources here? Anyone I should specifically look out for?

Thanks!

 

[Deleted member 21405]

I found a link on SST to this source for syringes. A better deal than Amazon by a long shot. Also, your natty t levels are low.

Exel - 3 CC Syringe with 25 G X 1" Needle - 100 Count

#EX3C2510 - Exel - 3 CC Syringe with 25 G X 1" Needle - 100 Count

www.gpzmedlab.com

 

[Gbunk]

Hey, thanks for responding. Regarding your answers:
1. Does the forum have a comprehensive thread on this somewhere?
2. I'll probably go with 400 mg/mL and pin 3 times a week like you said. I was also reading around here and found a lot of people mentioning test-c is the way to go because e is a harsher oil. Would it be worth it to get some Dianabol too for a first time cycle? From my understanding, it's just an oral version of testosterone with a really low half-life, but it is toxic to the liver, and on that note, exactly how bad is it? Are we talking a full day's worth of drinking alcohol bad, or much worse?
5. Is there a specific reason for using a real name? Does using fake names set off alarms at the post office? And what are the odds of cops showing at your door? Do you just deny the package is yours?

And what are the preferred sources here? Anyone I should specifically look out for?

Thanks!

Not sure what your comprehensive thread is that you’re looking for but there is a bloodwork section that will show you what labs are most often purchased and those should be bare minimum. There is a bloodwork section in the wiki. Test e kind of has a bad rap. It seems to bother some people, not everyone though. You could try either out and see. Test e and test c are really close in half life and same amount of time injected per week so you could even switch to a bottle of test c after using a bottle of test e. You really should stick to 1 compound your first time because you won’t know how to gauge your estrogen with more than 1 estrogenic compound if you don’t even have experience with 1. Also, dbol would be awful for a first cycle since it aromatizes to estrogen like crazy. Usually something like tbol, anavar, or Winstrol are used on a second or third cycle since they are more mild in terms of sides. Any source here should be good to go. All sources here have been approved. Visits source pages and go over reviews and see what you like.

Regarding Bitcoin, you can also use apps like coinbase to buy Bitcoin. However, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS SEND YOUR BITCOIN TO A WALLET AND THEN TO THE SOURCE. It is safer that way. For example, buy Bitcoin from PayPal, then send it to a wallet, and then send it to the source. For a wallet, I like “Green”.