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Been cycling Test cyp 750mg and 50mg Anavar for 12wk cycles. Then I cruise at 150mg of Test cyp and go off the Anavar completely for about 2 months.

Anybody just keep on the Anavar at a low dose of like 10/25mg until next cycle? I did my labs only 3wks after cruising and everything was tip top in the normal range.

I'm pretty new to the whole game but have been an active lifter for about 6yrs. I've only been on Test for a year and Anavar for only 2 cycles. I'm 6'2 270lbs and looking to learn 😉
 

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Im interested on others point of view. I thought it was typically time on/time off. I ran Var for 5 months and my dr. wanted to put me on a cholesterol med because mine was about 500. I was running 50mg. Sorry i dont have much to add.
 
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Im interested on others point of view. I thought it was typically time on/time off. I ran Var for 5 months and my dr. wanted to put me on a cholesterol med because mine was about 500. I was running 50mg. Sorry i dont have much to add.
No I appreciate the input. That's quite a while. No other issues in blood work other than cholesterol?
 

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Been cycling Test cyp 750mg and 50mg Anavar for 12wk cycles. Then I cruise at 150mg of Test cyp and go off the Anavar completely for about 2 months.

Anybody just keep on the Anavar at a low dose of like 10/25mg until next cycle? I did my labs only 3wks after cruising and everything was tip top in the normal range.

I'm pretty new to the whole game but have been an active lifter for about 6yrs. I've only been on Test for a year and Anavar for only 2 cycles. I'm 6'2 270lbs and looking to learn 😉
I just recently experimented with this, under up taking 12.5mg anavar a day with 140mg a week of trt. I took 3 grams of fish oil a day and ubiquinol (don't recall dose atm). Everything came back great for me, only thing was total cholesterol was a tad low. I can check my labs tomorrow if you're Interested in lipids and such. Definitely noticed a difference with the anavar at that dose as well.
 
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I just recently experimented with this, under up taking 12.5mg anavar a day with 140mg a week of trt. I took 3 grams of fish oil a day and ubiquinol (don't recall dose atm). Everything came back great for me, only thing was total cholesterol was a tad low. I can check my labs tomorrow if you're Interested in lipids and such. Definitely noticed a difference with the anavar at that dose as well.
Awesome! Appreciate the input brother. The biggest reason I ask is because I have Multiple Sclerosis. Bodybuilding and gear have actually saved my life. I notice big improvements in overall energy and symptom reduction while on Anavar. Test helps a ton as well, but i would like to be able to cruz on both. My last labs everything was in the norm except my hematocrit was elevated by .2 lol.
 
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I just recently experimented with this, under up taking 12.5mg anavar a day with 140mg a week of trt. I took 3 grams of fish oil a day and ubiquinol (don't recall dose atm). Everything came back great for me, only thing was total cholesterol was a tad low. I can check my labs tomorrow if you're Interested in lipids and such. Definitely noticed a difference with the anavar at that dose as well.
Ya let me know about those too. Appreciate it.
 

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I would advise you to reconsider cruising on an oral steroid which has that harsh of a lipid profile.

IMO it would be more sustainable and healthier for you to simply run a larger dose of test instead of adding the Anavar in. You’ll spare your liver some too.

Sure, you may be able to get away with it for a few years but why take the risk? In terms of side effect profile test is one of the safest compounds you can take (at reasonable doses). It will also aromatize into estrogen which will help to keep your HDL up and will protect your brain and heart. E2 is incredibly neuroprotective.

Since you have MS, I would also STRONGLY suggest you avoid highly neurotoxic compounds such as Tren. The potential for neurological issues in someone who’s already predisposed such as yourself is too high.

Alternatively, please consider the fact that there are other pathways to anabolism besides the androgen receptor.

You could look to using GHRH/GHRP like Mod GRF/Ipamorelin or just straight up GH but no more than 1-2 IU per day.

You could also just try to focus on your training methods. More gear isn’t the answer. You up the dose when you’ve plateaued after having dialed in your diet and training.

If you want acute preworkout benefits from an oral, you could consider using test no ester as a PWO.

Think about the long term. It’s just not advisable for your health IMO.
 

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im with luxferro, i dont think the benefit from cruising on var "year round" is worth it.

if youre trying to lean out, i learned the hard way, but steriods are only a small part. DIET is HUGE on leaning out. I ran tren 300 and test c 500 and got bloodwork done and i was a walking heart attack, e2 was high, all my numbers were fucked. swapped out all my shitty food for quality lean meats, no egg yokes, pink salt, etc and i lost 20 pounds, got my numbers done again and i was at natty levels with everything besides test.

diet first, gear second, training third.

.....but if you do decide to cruise on var, keep us updated :) good luck!!
 
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I would advise you to reconsider cruising on an oral steroid which has that harsh of a lipid profile.

IMO it would be more sustainable and healthier for you to simply run a larger dose of test instead of adding the Anavar in. You’ll spare your liver some too.

Sure, you may be able to get away with it for a few years but why take the risk? In terms of side effect profile test is one of the safest compounds you can take (at reasonable doses). It will also aromatize into estrogen which will help to keep your HDL up and will protect your brain and heart. E2 is incredibly neuroprotective.

Since you have MS, I would also STRONGLY suggest you avoid highly neurotoxic compounds such as Tren. The potential for neurological issues in someone who’s already predisposed such as yourself is too high.

Alternatively, please consider the fact that there are other pathways to anabolism besides the androgen receptor.

You could look to using GHRH/GHRP like Mod GRF/Ipamorelin or just straight up GH but no more than 1-2 IU per day.

You could also just try to focus on your training methods. More gear isn’t the answer. You up the dose when you’ve plateaued after having dialed in your diet and training.

If you want acute preworkout benefits from an oral, you could consider using test no ester as a PWO.

Think about the long term. It’s just not advisable for your health IMO.
I really appreciate the input and recommendations brother 💪

I've been considering GH for a while when reading up on it and how it could help me in terms of MS. I'll need to look a little further into it before pulling the trigger but I feel it would help. Funny enough last night I actually had a dream that I started GH haha. Tren is definitely off the table for me. I'm staying away from a lot of gear and sticking with the mild ones. Don't need to get huge but just be healthy and have some muscle to combat this Ms.

You are right about the Anavar, my goal is to feel healthy and live my life to the best I can without shortening it too much or at all. Mental clarity is an issue I have with MS and anavar seemed to greatly improve that for me.

I've been an active serious lifting for the last 6yrs. I use to target more of a bodybuilding type of routine and would bulk and cut. When my MS developed to an extreme stage which is what got me diagnosed, it was when I was cutting. Since then I've taken more of a powerlifting stance. Keeping a good calorie surplus and my BP at a lower level during workouts helps a lot and I feel better. I definitely will be (cutting) again, but it will be a slow and controlled cut that's not just a dramatic drop in weight. I feel like I've dialed in my routine and diet pretty well. Obviously I have some fat on me now but I feel good and my labs and BP are in the healthy range. Again I appreciate your input and thoughtful help.
 
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im with luxferro, i dont think the benefit from cruising on var "year round" is worth it.

if youre trying to lean out, i learned the hard way, but steriods are only a small part. DIET is HUGE on leaning out. I ran tren 300 and test c 500 and got bloodwork done and i was a walking heart attack, e2 was high, all my numbers were fucked. swapped out all my shitty food for quality lean meats, no egg yokes, pink salt, etc and i lost 20 pounds, got my numbers done again and i was at natty levels with everything besides test.

diet first, gear second, training third.

.....but if you do decide to cruise on var, keep us updated :) good luck!!
I'm not trying to lean out but just get the most out of what I can in the safest way possible. Overall I notice a big cognitive incline when on Anavar and going off completely I notice a big decline. Which is the name of the game anyway lol. I eat pretty clean and have a cheat meal maybe once a month. Leaning out for me is easy these days. Putting on mass is the hard part for me.

Ya I'm thinking it's probably not a good idea to cruz Var. Maybe I'll just cruz test at 200mg instead of 150mg. But I'll definitely throw an update in if I end up running Anavar for a long period of time, unless it kills me 😂
 

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I'm not trying to lean out but just get the most out of what I can in the safest way possible. Overall I notice a big cognitive incline when on Anavar and going off completely I notice a big decline. Which is the name of the game anyway lol. I eat pretty clean and have a cheat meal maybe once a month. Leaning out for me is easy these days. Putting on mass is the hard part for me.

Ya I'm thinking it's probably not a good idea to cruz Var. Maybe I'll just cruz test at 200mg instead of 150mg. But I'll definitely throw an update in if I end up running Anavar for a long period of time, unless it kills me 😂
buddy i misread your first post. it said LEARN not LEAN. lol. i cruised on 250. i was blasting at 500 but i hold water weight and bp gets a little high. im blasting at 250 test c and 150 npp and var 20-50 on training days. going to up the test and npp and drop the var in a week. i feel good so far. sorry that i misread that. lol

good luck!
 

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What is your goal with the var? Without an answer to that I would speculate adding low dose primo is a solid replacement. I cruise on 125mg/50mg test/primo for a dry athletic 'look'/feeling year round. Will drop it if my hair starts to retreat.
 
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What is your goal with the var? Without an answer to that I would speculate adding low dose primo is a solid replacement. I cruise on 125mg/50mg test/primo for a dry athletic 'look'/feeling year round. Will drop it if my hair starts to retreat.
Goal is to just feel as good as possible and get the most out of everything and moderately safe.
buddy i misread your first post. it said LEARN not LEAN. lol. i cruised on 250. i was blasting at 500 but i hold water weight and bp gets a little high. im blasting at 250 test c and 150 npp and var 20-50 on training days. going to up the test and npp and drop the var in a week. i feel good so far. sorry that i misread that. lol

good luck!
Haha no worries man. I've actually cruised 300mg of test cyp for 6 months before and only saw slightly elevated WBC on labs.
 

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Goal is to just feel as good as possible and get the most out of everything and moderately safe.
Primo is perfect for that IMO. Pretty much safest steroid in existence, the complete absence of side effects + DHT makes it "feel good". Only cons would be hair if prone and $$
 
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Primo is perfect for that IMO. Pretty much safest steroid in existence, the complete absence of side effects + DHT makes it "feel good". Only cons would be hair if prone and $$
Maybe I'll run a cycle with Test primo and Anavar. And then just ditch the Anavar and cruise test and primo. No worries with hair loss. I'm already bald af 😂
 

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Any Ill effects from long term higher doses (higher than TRT) will not kill you until later when it’ll be hard to connect the dots.

Cholesterol is a repair substance your body produces. The fact that your cholesterol raises is your body responding to certain damages. Just because your cholesterol lowers after your cycle doesn’t mean “you’re healed”. Damage has been done.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. Certain arterial damage and heart deterioration are non reversible. We have our foot on the gas pedal when we abuse PEDs.

We’re getting better about healthy ways to cycle as a community, but PEDs are not a safe hobby.

Only you can decide in the end what you’re willing to sacrifice and what you’ll gain.
 
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