Equipoise lean bulk with “TRT” test

[Khanfasa]

Anyone have experience keeping test at 200-250mg and running between 1-2g of EQ? Looking to slowly add lean keepable mass with minimal water/bloating on this year’s 16-20 week winter bulk.

Thoughts, concerns and shitposts welcome.

 

[KingTest]

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Anyone have experience keeping test at 200-250mg and running between 1-2g of EQ? Looking to slowly add lean keepable mass with minimal water/bloating on this year’s 16-20 week winter bulk.

Thoughts, concerns and shitposts welcome.

I never tried EQ but ive donn TRT-250test with tren, npp, mast, and primo higher than the test. It was amazing and feels much better than high test, slower strength gains due to less water but feels and looks better than higher test if you are a watery, high BP prone individual like myself.

As for EQ with low test, I read its a noGo due to the metabolite of EQ being an AI, therefore crashing e2. EQ is also supposedly a prohormone of Primo and though I never got bloods on 250test 600primo I did begin to feel mentally wacky by week 8, I did howeevr look dry ass fuck

 

[Bearslovecheese]

As kingtest said, the whole metabolite thing MAY cause an issue. EQ is strange, some people get that strong AI effect others don’t seem to get it as much. The only way you’ll find out is to give it a try. I’m assuming you’re going to be using long esters for the test. Have a vial of Test A on hand so that IF you start to feel like your E2 is crashed out you can spike your test and start getting some more aromatization happening while you increase your Enan/cyp dose to a higher level.

Or you can stick with the longer ester and “double” your increase in dose to spike blood levels. If 250 is crashed and you want to step up to 350 (+100) then giving yourself a hefty next dose (450-500) will rapidly get your blood levels saturated at the new level and the excess testosterone should give you a simultaneous spike in estro to get you feeling better/back to normal. Then continue at the new 350 dose. A couple weeks at the new dose should tell you everything you need to know whether you found the right dose for you E2-wise.

 

[PissedPajamas]

OP I’ve asked the same question as you multiple times cause TRT+EQ seems like a match made in heaven if you want long term gains and minimal sides with no bloat. I’d do Bold A for a few days and see how you feel, and if you think you’re up for it throw in EQ. FWIW I never got low estro symptoms on Bold A at 30mg ED but I was testing it moreso because I hear anxiety is a problem with Bold

 

[Master_Roshi]

I mean, is there any actual evidence EQ lowers estrogen? Because I’m fairly sure it only masks symptoms. I’ve had bloodwork done on the same doses of substances with and without EQ and my estrogen has always been almost exactly the same.

 

[Nimbus_Cl0ud]

Works well but slow, I personally wouldnt go above 800mg-1g a week. Keep in mind it does Aromatize, not as much as Test but it absolutely does aromatize. Pay attention to bloodwork and donate blood if needed, High BP & Lethargy are clear indicators that something is up. As well as it might work for a cut it isnt for everyone and some people notice a massive appetite gain especially at the doses youre considering which might be extremely counterproductive

 

[Master_Roshi]

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Works well but slow, I personally wouldnt go above 800mg-1g a week. Keep in mind it does Aromatize, not as much as Test but it absolutely does aromatize. Pay attention to bloodwork and donate blood if needed, High BP & Lethargy are clear indicators that something is up. As well as it might work for a cut it isnt for everyone and some people notice a massive appetite gain especially at the doses youre considering which might be extremely counterproductive

Seconding the appetite boost, I could eat endlessly when I took high dose EQ which was amazing for my bulk but might be an annoyance if you’re trying to keep calories down.

 

[Khanfasa]

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Works well but slow, I personally wouldnt go above 800mg-1g a week. Keep in mind it does Aromatize, not as much as Test but it absolutely does aromatize. Pay attention to bloodwork and donate blood if needed, High BP & Lethargy are clear indicators that something is up. As well as it might work for a cut it isnt for everyone and some people notice a massive appetite gain especially at the doses youre considering which might be extremely counterproductive

Seconding the appetite boost, I could eat endlessly when I took high dose EQ which was amazing for my bulk but might be an annoyance if you’re trying to keep calories down.

What did you run it at?

 

[IGF]

I ran 350 test with 1-2g EQ, amongst other things, but thought it was great.

 

[Master_Roshi]

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Works well but slow, I personally wouldnt go above 800mg-1g a week. Keep in mind it does Aromatize, not as much as Test but it absolutely does aromatize. Pay attention to bloodwork and donate blood if needed, High BP & Lethargy are clear indicators that something is up. As well as it might work for a cut it isnt for everyone and some people notice a massive appetite gain especially at the doses youre considering which might be extremely counterproductive

Seconding the appetite boost, I could eat endlessly when I took high dose EQ which was amazing for my bulk but might be an annoyance if you’re trying to keep calories down.

What did you run it at?

I’ve run it between 300mg-1.2g but prefer it around 600mg-1g ideally.

 

[Seatedmaggs]

Low test with high boldenone does exactly what you say you want it to. Good steady gains with minimal bloat and sides. Just make sure you get blood work to see if you get a good AI effect from it. The first time I ran it, I was crashing my estrogen so hard for months. And donate blood…your platelets will skyrocket. Ive been on boldenone since December. At one point I went 3 months without donating, and my platelets were at 585k. The blood center called to see if I had died, lol…

IMO you can up the test to 350 without seeing any real bloat. That’s what I ran it at, 350 test/1g boldenone, nothing bad to say about that stack. Honestly though, I was constantly cycling other drugs in with it, so I cant say for sure what the EQ was doing compared to the other drugs. But it sure makes you vascular

As far as anxiety, that seems to only kick in at night for me, after I trained and my CNS is taxed, and the preworkout is still in my system, and I’m all alone. But I never had problems sleeping on it.

Hmm what else…oh it makes your weiner bigger

 

[NattyLite]

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any actual evidence EQ lowers estrogen?

There is absolutely tons of anecdotal (bloodwork) evidence that EQ lowers estrogen. That doesn’t mean it’s a fact for everyone. It’s like claiming how much AI you need for a 500mg test blast. Claiming any number at all just shows ignorance.

I’ve personally blasted 1.5g bold cyp with 175 test E (high responder) and had sensitive e2 in the 300’s at 5 weeks. High e2 symptoms to match.