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Curious to how everyone doses their AI here.
Obviously bloodwork will dial it down but I’ve been seeing some people take theirs immediately after pinning. Some 9 hrs after, some the night before, etc. thoughts??
 

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Curious to how everyone doses their AI here.
Obviously bloodwork will dial it down but I’ve been seeing some people take theirs immediately after pinning. Some 9 hrs after, some the night before, etc. thoughts??
First can you tell me which AI you have and what your cycle is?
 

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I’ve been doing 12.5mg eod with food after pinning.
I’m currently on 350/300/200 test/primo/dhb

Not asking for advice on my cycle just curious to how how everyone times their AI.
 

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I’ve been doing 12.5mg eod with food after pinning.
I’m currently on 350/300/200 test/primo/dhb

Not asking for advice on my cycle just curious to how how everyone times their AI.
Im aware.

I've always based the frequency on my bloods. 12.5mg of ASIN on Monday and Friday in the morning or afternoon. Its not really something you need to time like a diabetic with insulin. I dont factor in when I take it based on when I did or didn't pin. I havent ever seen anything to support information on that being impactful. With you taking it EOD you've got blood saturation happening so it really doesnt matter. Just be consistent with it and, as you said, adjust with results from bloods.
 

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I’ve been doing 12.5mg eod with food after pinning.
I’m currently on 350/300/200 test/primo/dhb

Not asking for advice on my cycle just curious to how how everyone times their AI.


With Primo (and probably DHB) you have no need to be on an AI. I mean … unless ofc your bloods just show you need it.

Primo will systematically crush your E2. Still some debate as to DHB. I lean towards the belief that it will, as it’s a derivative of EQ and in the DHT family.


I take 0.125 (ballpark) of ADex 18-24 hrs after test injection, which is 2x a week. So I’m taking 0.25/week. I just try and split a quarter of a pill in half. Doesn’t work real well, which is why I say ballpark. The main reason I’m doing it like this is I’m trying to crush the estrogen peak as the test peaks 24hrs later.
 

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With Primo (and probably DHB) you have no need to be on an AI. I mean … unless ofc your bloods just show you need it.

Primo will systematically crush your E2. Still some debate as to DHB. I lean towards the belief that it will, as it’s a derivative of EQ and in the DHT family.


I take 0.125 (ballpark) of ADex 18-24 hrs after test injection, which is 2x a week. So I’m taking 0.25/week. I just try and split a quarter of a pill in half. Doesn’t work real well, which is why I say ballpark. The main reason I’m doing it like this is I’m trying to crush the estrogen peak as the test peaks 24hrs later.
If your primo is real. I was getting a gyno flare up from something. I suspect it was the anadrol and not fake primo but I’m not positive.
 

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With Primo (and probably DHB) you have no need to be on an AI. I mean … unless ofc your bloods just show you need it.

Primo will systematically crush your E2. Still some debate as to DHB. I lean towards the belief that it will, as it’s a derivative of EQ and in the DHT family.


I take 0.125 (ballpark) of ADex 18-24 hrs after test injection, which is 2x a week. So I’m taking 0.25/week. I just try and split a quarter of a pill in half. Doesn’t work real well, which is why I say ballpark. The main reason I’m doing it like this is I’m trying to crush the estrogen peak as the test peaks 24hrs later.
So I’ve been running Adex .5 twice a week on 500mg/week of test C and 50mg of VAR, got labs done and TEST looks good but estradiol was 49pg/ml. Last dose of adex (.5 ) was about 50 hours prior to labs. You think I should go to EOD with the adex to control the estrogen better? Suggestions? Also my alt and ast are pretty high for my levels without the VAR. I picked up some milk thistle and TUDCA any other suggestions? Is this a really high number have no clue on liver stuff.
 

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Your primo may negate the need for an AI. If you’re feeling symptoms pop 30mg ralox ed until bloods can confirm and adjust from there.
 

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So I’ve been running Adex .5 twice a week on 500mg/week of test C and 50mg of VAR, got labs done and TEST looks good but estradiol was 49pg/ml. Last dose of adex (.5 ) was about 50 hours prior to labs. You think I should go to EOD with the adex to control the estrogen better? Suggestions? Also my alt and ast are pretty high for my levels without the VAR. I picked up some milk thistle and TUDCA any other suggestions? Is this a really high number have no clue on liver stuff.


But what are your test levels at with that dose? Kind of important. What’s wrong with a 49 pc/dL unless you’re experiencing symptoms? That said, how long was it before your last test shot when you took your test?


Choline inositol. It’s good for cleansing a fatty liver.
 

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But what are your test levels at with that dose? Kind of important. What’s wrong with a 49 pc/dL unless you’re experiencing symptoms? That said, how long was it before your last test shot when you took your test?


Choline inositol. It’s good for cleansing a fatty liver.
Test came back at 3500, last shot was the same amount of time about 50hours prior To labs. as far as the estrogen goes i am basing it being high just on the standard range given in the lab result, is it not? trying to find a sweet spot for the estrogen ive seen 26, is ideal. Wouldn’t say i have symptoms but learning a lot of this is trail and error so figured asking for some advice might shorten that for me lol.
 

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Test came back at 3500, last shot was the same amount of time about 50hours prior To labs. as far as the estrogen goes i am basing it being high just on the standard range given in the lab result, is it not? trying to find a sweet spot for the estrogen ive seen 26, is ideal. Wouldn’t say i have symptoms but learning a lot of this is trail and error so figured asking for some advice might shorten that for me lol.

Ok so something to keep in mind …. Lab range is based on a test level of like 300-900 or something along those lines. You have a test level of 3500. Think about that … estrogen levels, which is neuro and cardio protective is, relative to your higher test levels is normal. 26 is just way too low imo. Even normally. It all depends on your mood, physical well being, and symptoms. I know people who like E2 around 70+ when on cycle. I like mine around 40 with a test level around 1600. Again, you need to figure your own body out. At what level do you feel best. Do you wake up with morning wood? Etc.
 

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Ok so something to keep in mind …. Lab range is based on a test level of like 300-900 or something along those lines. You have a test level of 3500. Think about that … estrogen levels, which is neuro and cardio protective is, relative to your higher test levels is normal. 26 is just way too low imo. Even normally. It all depends on your mood, physical well being, and symptoms. I know people who like E2 around 70+ when on cycle. I like mine around 40 with a test level around 1600. Again, you need to figure your own body out. At what level do you feel best. Do you wake up with morning wood? Etc.
Ok that makes total sense! Yeah i do hard as a rock! thanks for the input man, ill just keep it where it is for now if needed i can always go To 1.5 a week, or something to find that sweet spot.
 
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