2nd cycle. What should I add to test?

[Rickwrack777]

So I'm about to start my 2nd cycle. First cycle was 500mg testosterone, nothing else. I'm thinking about adding another compound into my 2nd cycle but I've heard bad things about dbol like "it's not the best at anything and has the worst side effects" (says one of the youtube gurus anyways). Wondering what would be the best compound to add in to my 2nd time around? I'd rather have something for bulking rather than cutting btw. Thanks.

 

[goodfella]

How did your first cycle go, how were your gains, were you pleased? Can you share some stats and what your diet is like since it sounds like you want to focus on bulking?

 

[Rickwrack777]

It went great, gained 20 lbs. 500mgs of test, no AI. Went from 180 to 200. I lost 7 when I got off cycle but kept 13.
Couldn't tell you the exact amount of calories but I'm definitely in a surplus. A 3 layer pb&j sandwich and protien bar for breakfast, ham and cheese sub and pasta roni with beef for lunch, mass gainer protein shake after lunch, more pasta roni and beef with banana, avocado and greek yogurt for dinner.
I'm thinking about doing another cycle of 500mg of test but putting 75mg of dbol daily on top. But I hear bad things about dbol. I like the idea of deca or npp but I'm a little sketchy of doing something with such a hard HPTA shutdown. But at the end of the day I guess everything is a tradeoff. No risk no reward right?

 

[goodfella]

If you're looking to put on size, dbol isn't a bad choice, specially if it's your 2nd run. You'll get some bloat from it but that can be somewhat controlled by cleaning up your diet. Maybe start at 30-50mg dbol daily and see how you respond. If your happy with gains from those doses stay there. Only increase up if you feel the need to, but since it's your 2nd cycle shouldn't really need to increase, but to each his own. Also have somekind of ai/adex on hand if you add dbol in.

 

[makeway]

Skip the orals. Save em for your cut/contest prep.

I’d recommend either primo or equipoise. Both are less toxic than orals and give you higher quality gains.

NPP is great but can come with sides and I’d wait till you’re comfortable pinning everyday before giving that a shot.

 

[Rickwrack777]

Skip the orals. Save em for your cut/contest prep.

I’d recommend either primo or equipoise. Both are less toxic than orals and give you higher quality gains.

NPP is great but can come with sides and I’d wait till you’re comfortable pinning everyday before giving that a shot.

I thought about primo but isn't primo more of a cutting compound?

 

[makeway]

I thought about primo but isn't primo more of a cutting compound?

Nope! Primo is by far the most popular bulking compound these days due to its low sides and minimal effect to bloodwork. Only real negative is that it’s quite expensive.

I’m quite experienced (over 20 years) and am in week 10 of my bulk running 1000mg test, 1000mg primo, with a bit of NPP and Anavar sprinkled in.

With primo, EQ etc… you might only see 1lb gain a week… but that is 1lb of pure muscle… not fat or water and is easily maintained.

Versus, running dbol/drol, or something similar for 4 weeks, gaining 7lbs of water; 2lbs of fat, and 2 lbs of muscle while simultaneously trashing your lipids/liver values and growing some juicy gyno nips.

Try a cycle of 500 test and 500 primo for 12 weeks. If you wanna get fancy add 50 mg var ED during your LAST 4 weeks and enjoy!

 

[Rickwrack777]

Nope! Primo is by far the most popular bulking compound these days due to its low sides and minimal effect to bloodwork. Only real negative is that it’s quite expensive.

I’m quite experienced (over 20 years) and am in week 10 of my bulk running 1000mg test, 1000mg primo, with a bit of NPP and Anavar sprinkled in.

With primo, EQ etc… you might only see 1lb gain a week… but that is 1lb of pure muscle… not fat or water and is easily maintained.

Versus, running dbol/drol, or something similar for 4 weeks, gaining 7lbs of water; 2lbs of fat, and 2 lbs of muscle while simultaneously trashing your lipids/liver values and growing some juicy gyno nips.

Try a cycle of 500 test and 500 primo for 12 weeks. If you wanna get fancy add 50 mg var ED during your LAST 4 weeks and enjoy!

I think you've sold me on the idea of primo. Pure muscle gain sounds a lot better than gaining water, fat, and watching it dissappear when I get off cycle. I know primo is often faked. Can you recommend a source with good clean primo?

 

[makeway]

I think you've sold me on the idea of primo. Pure muscle gain sounds a lot better than gaining water, fat, and watching it dissappear when I get off cycle. I know primo is often faked. Can you recommend a source with good clean primo?

Absolutely! Id check out @GoodLyfe . He is one of the few verified sources here that have a proven track record on multiple boards including meso.

Oh, one of the benefits of primo I failed to mention is that it also works as an anti estrogen, so you don’t need an AI. So don’t worry about buying any Nolvadex or Arimidex.

Happy gaining!

 

[makeway]

Apparently goodlyfe retired last week….

That being said, I’ve used muscle candy with great results and can recommend.

 

[Rickwrack777]

Yyeah I had emai

Apparently goodlyfe retired last week….

That being said, I’ve used muscle candy with great results and can recommend.

Apparently goodlyfe retired last week….

That being said, I’ve used muscle candy with great results and can recommend.

Yeah I had emailed him and he said he wasn't taking any new customers. But muscle candy seems legit, I have some of their cypionate. I'll try the primo. Thanks man!